November 6 was a day of reckoning for the United States. It was the day the American people delivered a regime change by electing Donald J Trump as their 47th President.
In what has been described as the greatest political comeback of all times, the 78-year-old went through hell to achieve his historic victory.
This week’s NZCPR Guest Commentator, US journalist David Samuels, sums up the challenges the President faced as he battled the American establishment:
“Since his loss, in 2020, when he claimed that the election was stolen from him — and his opponents claimed that he tried to seize power through illegal means — Donald Trump had been subjected to a whole-of-society assault by the American elite that would have killed most men 20 years younger, including those who don’t eat cheeseburgers most days for lunch. After 116 indictments, an armed raid on his home, the jailing of his business associates, and the looming threat of bankruptcy, followed by two and even three in-person rallies a day for the better part of a year, which led to him being shot in the head by a would-be assassin, the fact that Trump is still standing upright, let alone greeting a crowd as President-elect, is clearly a miracle…”
David explains what motivated Americans to vote for Donald Trump:
“Five years of Covid laws, a stagnant economy, direct and indirect government censorship of social media, official lying and gaslighting on every subject from trans surgeries to the efficacy of masking to the startling numbers of illegal immigrants entering the country to the spectacle of a dottering Joe Biden being barely able to remember his own name, had left most of the country dispirited and ready for change.”
And change they delivered.
In what is the largest Republican Presidential victory since George W Bush in 2004, President-elect Trump decisively won the Whitehouse by 312 Electoral College votes to 226, the popular vote by 75,575,715 votes or 50.2 percent to 72,414,922 votes or 48.1 percent, and the Senate by 53 seats to 45. The House of Representatives still hangs in the balance.
Donald Trump increased his vote share in every state apart from Washington, not only significantly bolstering his support amongst the working class, but amongst almost all other constituency groups – even those the Democrats thought they had sewn up: African-Americans, Hispanics and other minorities, women, young people, first-time voters…
It’s indeed ironic that a billionaire born into wealth has greater empathy with grassroots America than the Democratic Party who delude themselves into thinking they serve the common man.
There’s no doubt that Donald Trump’s attraction was in no small part due to his resolute stand against the political establishment. The fact that they had set out to destroy him only strengthened his appeal to disillusioned voters.
Four years of being led by an aging President who left everyone wondering who was actually pulling the strings, had taken a toll. The cost-of-living crisis, the struggle to make ends meet, the escalation of illegal migration, rising crime, an on-going assault on American values, and the sneering disdain and contempt of the woke establishment – epitomised by President Biden describing Trump supporters as “garbage” – had left voters seeking change.
But in the end, the Democrats were routed because in answer to arguably the most important campaign questions of all time: “Are you better off today than you were four years ago?” – the majority of voters answered “No”.
CNN’s Scott Jennings hit the nail on the head with his election night analysis:
“I’m interpreting the results tonight as revenge of the regular working-class American, the anonymous American who has been crushed, insulted, condescended to. They’re not garbage, they’re not Nazis. They’re just regular people who get up and go to work every day and are trying to make a better life for their kids, and they feel like they have been told to just shut up when they have complained about the things that are hurting them in their own lives.
He questioned the role of the mainstream media:
“I also feel this election is an indictment on the political information complex. The story that was portrayed was not true. Night after night after night… we were ignoring the fundamentals: inflation, people feeling like they were barely able to tread water at best. For all of us who cover elections, we have to figure out how to understand, talk to and listen to the half of the country that rose up tonight and said: ‘We’ve had enough’.”
The independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders was scathing about the Democrats:
“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them. First, it was the white working class, and now it is the Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”
So, what changes will President Trump introduce?
Tax cuts are a priority including expanding the low tax regime he introduced in 2017, abolishing tax on overtime hours worked, and lowering corporate taxes from 21 percent to 15 percent.
New tariffs are proposed to create jobs and reduce the trade deficit – 10 percent on most foreign goods and 60 percent on imports from China.
A key to bringing inflation under control and making America affordable again is a rejection of the left’s radical climate change agenda. He will again withdraw the US from the Paris Climate Agreement and lower power prices by removing obstacles to fossil fuel production, including opening all federal lands for exploration: “We will drill, baby, drill.”
He plans to reduce the role of federal bureaucrats across the economy, unleashing housing construction by cutting regulations and ending “frivolous litigation from environmental extremists.”
And to avoid a repeat of his first term experience of a federal “deep state” undermining his administration and driving impeachment efforts, he will make it easier to fire government employees who are disloyal.
He has pledged to complete the border wall with Mexico and undertake the biggest mass deportation of undocumented migrants in US history.
In an initiative that has the potential to trigger a chain reaction around the Western world he plans to defund diversity, equity and inclusion programs in government institutions – a sentiment captured brilliantly in campaign ads: “Kamala is for they/them – President Trump is for you”!
In particular, he wants to scrap diversity programs at all levels of education, calling for federal funding to be pulled from “any school or program pushing Critical Race Theory, gender ideology, or other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children.”
And in higher education, he intends to take over accreditation processes in a move that he describes as his “secret weapon” against the “Marxist maniacs and lunatics” that control higher education.
President Trump’s plan highlighted the growing divide between ordinary Americans wanting a better life, and the obsession over “diversity” and “identity” by the left-wing elite.
Back in 2016, after Hillary Clinton described Trump voters as “deplorables” and lost the election, Professor Mark Lilla of Columbia University warned against the Democrat’s focus on diversity:
“Hillary Clinton tended to slip into the rhetoric of diversity. This was a strategic mistake. National politics in healthy periods is not about ‘difference’, it is about commonality. And it will be dominated by whoever best captures Americans’ imaginations about our shared destiny… Identity politics, by contrast… never wins elections — but can lose them.”
At the time New Zealand journalist John Moore, described identity politics as an “elitist scam” that allowed state largesse to flow into the hands of the elites running the groups that claimed to be marginalised – instead of helping those in need: “Modern social-liberalism – in the form of identity politics – has been exposed as an elitist scam. Gender politics, LGBTQI+ movements, and tino rangatiratanga struggles were all presented as a way to alleviate the poverty, oppression and discrimination of those at the bottom of society. Instead these ideologies have only acted to elevate… an elite of those from subjugated sectors of society.”
He was right: the push for power by the tribal elite has enabled them to establish multi-billion-dollar business empires with fat salaries and flash cars – while continuing to claim “their people” are disadvantaged and in need of taxpayer handouts.
There are many lessons for New Zealand in the US election outcome.
Firstly, it’s very clear that politicians who lose touch with the sentiment of ordinary folk do so at their peril. The reality is that most people have simple needs and modest expectations about what they expect from political leaders. But overwhelmingly, they do not want to be taken for granted nor treated with contempt.
Secondly, just as Americans rejected the politics of diversity, so have New Zealanders. Identity politics, which undermines equality by dividing everyone according to race, gender and sexual preferences, was weaponised by former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to marginalise men, indoctrinate children, and undermine our Kiwi values and culture.
While the Coalition is making progress in repairing the damage, they have not gone far enough – nor are they moving fast enough.
In fact, President Trump is showing politicians around the world what’s needed to reverse left-wing ideology – and National should take note.
Putting some of his relevant policies into a New Zealand context, his pledge to defund radical diversity programmes that are corrupting State institutions, including universities and schools, should be adopted here.
A similar strategy should also be applied to Labour’s radicalised “Treaty partnership” programmes, which undermine democracy by empowering unaccountable tribal leaders to control government decision-making – instead of elected representatives who are accountable to voters.
The Coalition should not only remove all references to these Treaty partnerships from Statutes and the official documentation of organisations regulated or funded by the New Zealand Government – including State media – but all such programmes should be defunded.
The Coalition also needs to urgently reconsider climate policy.
The US will pull out of the Paris Agreement. This means that none of the world’s major emitters will be bound by the UN’s climate accord. Given the shift in voter sentiment away from climate alarmism around the world, other nations are likely to follow the US and abandon their climate pledges as well.
This raises the very real possibility that Net Zero will end up collapsing like a house of cards.
That means our Government should now be asking why they are persisting with climate policies that are endangering our country’s economic wellbeing when all of the world’s major emitters are ignoring net zero constraints in order to fuel economic growth and raise the living standards of their citizens.
Do our politicians still think we need to retain the most punitive self-imposed climate restrictions in the world to enhance our international image when our largest trading partners have rejected such policies?
The Coalition needs to wake up – especially now their Climate Commission is proactively recommending the mass slaughter of millions of cows and sheep so New Zealand can meet its crippling commitments.
As for America, last week’s election signals the beginning of a new era.
For New Zealand, our new era began in October last year, when we too overwhelmingly voted for change.
But while immigration was the undercurrent issue of the US election, which the Republicans pledged to fix, in New Zealand, only Act and New Zealand First campaigned against our undercurrent issue – the tribal power-grab. National largely turned a blind eye.
While the three Coalition parties agreed on a plan to fix the problem there’s a growing perception that National has become ‘woke’ and is only half-hearted in its commitment.
Yet in politics, as the US election has shown, being perceived as woke can cost politicians dearly. National ignores the rising groundswell of public concern over the escalating demands for power by tribal leaders at its peril.
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THIS WEEK’S POLL ASKS:
*Should New Zealand follow the US and pull out of the Paris Climate Agreement?
*Poll comments are posted below.
*All NZCPR poll results can be seen in the Archive.
THIS WEEK’S POLL COMMENTS
| Pull out of the Paris agreement now, it’s neo-marxist woke b’s | Flip |
| If only we had the leadership, the US will have from 2025. Why does National insist on following the Maori tribal and climate hoaxes? | Monica |
| Yes!Yes!!Yes! | Gail |
| immediately | Henry |
| The agreement is flawed , does nothing to help the climate and is ruining us | Ailsa |
| The whole thing is a con – and it’s amazing to see so many Kiwis in favour of it. | Margaret |
| YES, this climate change is the biggest scam the world has ever seen and it’s the biggest brain wash ever. The world is in the middle of it’s evolution cycle that happens every 30 million years or so, and it dosen’t matter what we do or how much money we put into it, it wont change a dame thing because this is the earths way of cleansing. It’s called EVOLUTION. NOT CLIMATE CHANGE or any other studied dame thing you might like to call it, in other words it’s all just BULLSHIT and a complete waste of time and money. | COLIN |
| definitely | Bob |
| our spineless pro socialist govt. lacks the intelligence to see through the cultish myth called climate change. | Paul |
| climate change is a socialist rort, pathetic govt. is stupid to buy into propaganda. | Pattie |
| Climate change is the biggest hoax we have seen in modern history. We need to conscript “real “scientists to present the “real”data | phil |
| End ALL fraudulent climate hoax Treaties,including the PARIS CLIMATE FRAUD, as well as COP 25, and Agenda 21/50, along with the HAARP Weather control programme! | David |
| We have too many woke greenies in this country many of whom come from other countries and bring their agenda to NZ.. I think we should pull out of the Paris agreement. Let us get our own country up and running then maybe tackle it later. I can’t see Luxon doing it though. I voted for him, but I won’t again. He has no balls. Afraid of upsetting Maori. | Dianne |
| Never should have signed up in the first place | Stan |
| New Zealand needs to work independently on the global GHG situation and to do the best we can. We don’t need to be under the jack boots of the world’s big time polluters who will never achieve their impossible targets in any case. We cannot destroy our own country when most others are sailing along ensuring that their individual economies will not be threatened. | Garry. |
| Absolutely | Richard |
| There is NO ‘science’ that evidence’s our weather is affected by man-made carbon. Check it out. and stop believing the deception. | Maurie |
| Climate change may be a thing, but I firmly believe that it is not ‘man made’. | Sue |
| But we must look more to cleaner power and that is NOT with wind turbines in their present format | John |
| whole things is a sham | richard |
| get rid of all of the Adern leftovers and properly PUNISH the TPM parliamentary disrupters | Mike |
| 100% GET OUT NOW !! | trish |
| We should never ever signed the agreement but our brown nosing poly’s thought that the septic that started all this crap and got the idiot swedish nut job and many like her to join up has screwed this country and luxon is shit scared of pulling out in case he looses his knight hood that he will get when he looses the next electrion just like key, two pees in a pod plus the bent dame who lives in the states sprouting crap through her buck teeth, and now with trump in power this country is going to be invaded by the likes of genter with all their bull shit ideas and attitude, be interesting to see what the hories do when the septics start buying all the land and stop them from walking on it, | Richard |
| Today if possible! We simply CANNOT AFFORD to be part of this in New Zealand’s financially precarious state! | Sylvia |
| Should have never been in it. What ever we achieve will have huge cost and alarmingly small effect, if any. | Steve |
| Yes of course, it’s all about control of the peasants. Also out of the UN, WHO, WEF and any other corrupt groups | Carole |
| Because humans can’t change climate change. | John |
| Do it fast! | Allan |
| Either pull-out of the agreement or only implement climate change policies at the pace and scale of the biggest polluters in the world (eg. Chain, USA, India) or to maintain access to export markets (eg. European Union) | Gary |
| Quit playing with tribalism, get rid of this wile idea and shelve the treaty of whiatangi now! | Norman |
| climate change is a hoax | taylor |
| And urgently | Peter |
| The “Climate Change” movement is based on activists (and government) CONTROLLING the population. | Peter |
| Yep, the sooner the better. It was only a few years back that nitwits were telling us that global pollution would form a blanket and cause Global chilling and an ice age. Make up your bloody mind – fact is nothing is going to happen!!! | Don |
| Climate change is a green knee jerk reaction not supported by fact, another way to gain tax dollars | Ken |
| Ruining our farmers will topple our country’s economy and make us totally bankrupt with no way back NZ is self destruction while the planets largest nations are forging ahead without this strangulation. How come our elected don’t see the truth? | Marilyn |
| Yes pull out. What a sham | Denise |
| Absolutely !! New Zealand%u2019s CO2 emissions are 3% x 0.17% of the total global CO2 emissions each year. 3% x 0.17% = 0.0051% !! This is 1 in 20,000. So the other 99.9949% is generated by all other sources, NOT NZ !!! i.e. NZ emissions are basically ZERO !!. | Doug |
| It’s fake | Laura |
| Question is how to wake up the MP’s to that fact that it is a scam to employ in the public sector on a global scale. None of nature’s natural gases are harmful to mankind – otherwise we would not be here!!! | Frederick |
| We cannot afford it when many other countries are pulling out of it. | Dorothy |
| most definitely | Ken |
| NZ should pull out of the WHO also. | Elsa |
| the UN has consistently denied any discussion on any but “greeenhouse gas”. A very one eyed view when nature has many parts | david |
| lets get real | Don |
| This climate nonsense is the biggest scam the world has seen. | Will |
| the sooner the better!!! | Bev |
| When top scientists, those who have been awarded Nobel prizes are silenced, one has to ask the reason why. What is really going on. | Margaret |
| Unashamedly! | Tom |
| It’s a bucket of shit and it stinks! | Merv |
| There seems to be more concern about requiring seriously high levels of funding from member countries, than carrying out actual essential climate-change major causal factor reductions or physical adaptations necessary to protect people. The regular world meetings, not just the big-ticket meetings of world leaders, must be costing millions, not to mention the negative impacts on climate change by the significant land and air travel required to attend these meetings. I’m sure that if climate change was the most important subject world-wide, there would be few wars, or even the constant mass protests over just about everything, except climate change. The wars themselves are having significant impacts on both the environmental and human aspects of climate change and do not appear to be a major concern at a political level. New Zealand has already paid billions of dollars to the world organisations and there would be more value to the average New Zealander if that money was spent on physical adaptations to mitigate the actual impacts of climate change, particularly as building insurance is rapidly becoming a major concern to residential, commercial, and industrial property owners, as well as the government, over coastal and low lying areas at potential risk of inundation or landslides. Insurance for these properties could be denied, or so high, as to be economically impossible. | John |
| Climate changes every day. Time to abandon any commitment to it & focus on building our economy | Judith |
| Yes please | Murray |
| And the sooner the better. The entire saga is false. | Elizabeth |
| yes yes yes, it is a total scam. who are the fat cats collecting the money?? | Erin |
| The climate crises scam has been so imbedded in the education indoctrination process that now sees the Green Party gaining a large proportion of the now generation vote. Consequently the likes of National, who are fully fledged members of the W.E.F already, are stupid enough to cling to the lies, hoping to get sufficient of the youth vote to stay in power. Only when the staunch old National loyalists wake up and switch to NZ-First or ACT, only then can we expect real change to happen. Look at the current situation where ACT is getting NO support from Key’s clone Luxon on the Treaty Amendment Bill. Please wake up NZ voters. Time is fast running out, thanks to your insistence in voting for the NATIONAL LABEL, | A.G.R. |
| Human induced climate change is a ridiculous, proven every time a volcano erupts. | Evan |
| No point in us screwing ourselves if the big powers aren’t cooperating | John |
| NZ ought not to have been involved from the beginning, but only because of the lefties in Govt who were caught up in this histeria of Alarmist Emergency of which there was NONE…! | Bruce |
| Definitely. But Luxon is too ignorant and too spineless to do it and, of course, he’s besotted by the globalists. The scam is that co2 and the other so-called greenhouse gases (except, possibly, water vapour) have little, if any, effect on the earths climate. If humans contribute to global warming its through the capture, production and use of energy by whatever methods employed! | Alan |
| We can’t afford the massive costs required to be a member. Suggest viewing ‘https://www.climatethemovie.net/ for anyone unaware this is a massive scam. As usual, follow the money right back to Wall Street. | Susan |
| Too right! Perhaps the little boy in the Emperor’s New Clothes was correct all this time. | James |
| Why not?? The 3 largest emitters India the USA and China don’t or won’t soon belong. | John |
| The whole anthropogenic climate change thing is a rort. We know it, they know it. | Martin |
| It’s money down the gurgler !! Scams for the countries who are corrupted by greedy leaders. | Rosie |
| self destructive rubbish Leave now | Pete |
| should never have joined in!! | james |
| Without doubt, we must pull out and recapture the clean green farms that we are/were so proud of. NZ needs to focus on the health of its citizens and not the wealth of the climate alarmists | neville |
| The scaremongering “Climate Crisis” is a scam used by internationalist Marxists taking over institutions such as the UN and its various proxies, dead set on destroying Western democracies. | Duncan |
| Ours is so small it won’t make any difference and we need every cent to help our economy | Rita |
| But I doubt the now woke National party will do so. Especially as Luxon has shown his true colours to be not blue. | mike |
| Who are the idiots who voted ational last election. Time people did some research before going to a polling booth. Luxon is a puppet of the WEF, just like Arderns, and will skip when things get too hot to handle. Two faced prat needs to go now, not in two years time when more damage is done to our economy – and the Maorification of NZ gets closer. | Carolyn |
| Alors!!! peutetra il y a un dieu | Mike |
| Absolutely . Immediately | Basil |
| It is all a scam and only benefits the elites. Not the we the people. | Klasina |
| They should have long ago. | Elizabeth Mary |
| Driven by European Socialists | Lindsay |
| You are right on the button with your article in this newsletter. I 100% agree with every word. Thank you! | Dallas |
| It seems little more than a huge waste of money as the major polluting countries and making little or no effort to effect change as these countries ar totally reliant on oil for their economy | John |
| Absolutely | Anthony |
| The Climate scam has gone on longer and been more damaging than the covid scam | Russell |
| Your writing is so pertinent I hope you don’t mind me using some of your so eloquent sentiments which I’m directing toward our local politicians | Anthony |
| Climate crisis is an elite control scam.. | Scott |
| The Climate lie is enough reason to dump the UN. So is the UNDRIP crap. Get rid of WEF. Stop investing in windmills ,solar, electric vehicles. | Peter |
| I think that the climate emergency is a hoax. In my 87 years of life I have seen the same climate patterns repeat cyclically. I have seen graphs showing CO2 levels rising but no related rise in ocean water levels. Something seems very fishy with the activists story of doom. | Derek |
| Climate change caused by man nonsense (the worlds climate naturally has always & will alway change) is the preserve of bureaucrats & their woke, fellow travellers who are trying to control & grab hard working folks money under the guise of a new religion. | Derek |
| we can’t afford it not to mention it has been shown to be a failed ideology that will destroy our economy to give money to China! Just plan stupid. Dump all climate accords now | NIGEL |
| China and India are the biggest polluters.We should pull out until they start contributing financially.It’s just a big scam to weaken the West. | malcolm |
| We should do what we can without destroying our economy | Martin |
| CC is a Togan horse. | Glenn |
| Spot on. National is in danger if they cannot read the mood of the people. | Dianne |
| Absolutely but Luxon is too woke and weak. No guts or gumption, unlike Trump. | Hohepa |
| should never have joined its definitely a scam | Graeme |
| The agreement is a blueprint for economic disaster and loss of sovereignty. | Ray |
| One volcano blowing it’s top is enough to negate years of man-made cutbacks. We need to clean up our air and water and crops, but need to do it in a reasoned manner | stephan |
| I do not accept that climate measures need be economically damaging. | Jonathan |
| It’s a scam that has made billions for the elite. And what has it achieved – nothing! | Roger |
| If we do not pull out and continue on all the demands will bankrupt New Zealand | leo |
| The sooner the better .. | Steve |
| Yes,It is a sham and always has been. As always follow the money and it will tell you who is pulling the strings who benefits. Planet earth has always thrived in warm periods,not so in cold times.We should relish our present interglacial period and enjoy it while we can as there is a very good chance we are entering a cold phase in the next few decades. The person who suggests we slaughter untold numbers of sheep and cattle to dimminish Methane production needs serious reeducation,and stood down,then sacked. | gale |
| The world got carried away with all the media hype. Get back to realities. | William Clive |
| An absolute no- brainer. It’s absolutely crippling our country, with the coming generations being brain-washed with this garbage through the woke teachers and university lecturers, It’s past time we all woke up to this scam before it’s too late | Dave |
| Absolutetly,and follow Trump to a positive ending. | john |
| Without question. | Colin |
| We need to be selfish as a country and start looking after our own economy and people. We have enough issues exacerbated by the previous six years of government that are potentially going to take years to reverse and fix particularly with the speed the current government is taking. National needs to get its act together or get out of the road. New Zealand omits a miniscule amount of pollution compared to most other countries and it would be a serious breach of the government if they continue down this track wasting money that needs to be spent on New Zealanders. I believe that Luxon is doing a disservice to New Zealanders as a whole and needs to stop being so political and make a stand for all New Zealanders just as the ACT Party is doing. | Robert |
| Yes, and be quick – smart about it! | Pamela |
| Luxton needs to grow some balls and respect the wishes of those who voted him in | Trevor |
| common sense | Jim |
| Absolutely, there is no climate emergency. Renewables are not the answer, can be part of the energy mix, but nuclear energy is a must for the future. | Sean |
| At the same time the Treaty should also be put into its rightful place as a document of historic interest only !! | Maurice |
| No if’s, buts, or maybe’s!! | Ron |
| bring it on | shirley |
| The whole propaganda thrust of how nz can influence climate change is totally woke nonsense. We will go broke following this ideology | Bryan |
| It is time to abandon the notion that humans are causing climate change. | Ian |
| there is NO VARIFIABLE ,EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE, that PROVES anthropogenic activity causes any climate change!!!!! | Brian |
| And the WHo and the UN | Lindy |
| Climate change is ongoing without any great input from man and net zero is a farce which will bankrupt the nation | tony |
| Four years of being led by an aging President who left everyone wondering who was actually pulling the strings, had taken a toll. No wondering, It was directly from Obama | Samiel |
| It is a farce and inaccurate | tHOMAS |
| I was very sceptical about the Paris Accord in the first place. | Ken |
| Others the offending countries ignore and make no effort to improve their pollution emissions. Why should they benefit from efforts of smaller nations like N.Z. | mike |
| The policies are based on false/untrue date.Get out now | Brian |
| Yes because climate change is a natural period of our times. | Colin |
| It’s a rort. They want money but specify how they will spend it. They don’t say how effective the scheme has been. An entire industry has been created around this topic and we all know that Climate Change effects as they are today can’t be reversed. It is all about the small players being kicked around by the big ones. Out now. | Mike |
| It’s a scam. | Trevor |
| DEFINITELY !!!!! ASAP !!!!!! | Sue |
| Its a big scam | Pam |
| ABSOLUTELY YES | Steve |
| Climate change is a natural phenomenon. If we can alter how the sun makes it sunspots, then go ahead. If we can alter how the sun sends out solar blasts, then go ahead. Certainly we should be investigating how to alter out lifestyles to accommodate changes in the climate, such as better drainage, not building too close to the coast, but don’t forget other natural phenomena such as the potential impact of volcanic eruptions, or the potential of earthquakes along the major fault lines. We do not a Paris accord on tectonic plate movements, or on volcanic eruptions. | Anthony |
| Someone has to do the work…. | Carl |
| The sooner the better | Andrew |
| Have never believed we are causing climate change. Earth has always done that of its own accord | Gail |
| When the Nats come up for fresh air, they should all be made to read out loud [visual and audio benefits] this opinion piece and if they are unable to provide constructive alternative options, they should look for employment in a lesser enviroment. | robin |
| Some of the best scientists in the world have proven that Co2 is NOT the cause of climate change. The news media are to blame | Ian |
| And do so immediately. That the climate commission, on top of everything else, is proposing that millions of livestock be slaughtered to meet some crazy commitment is horrifying ! | John |
| YES. Null Hypothesis ” that there is NO human caused climate changes that are or will be [very] damaging” is yet to be disproven | Peter |
| Nature has always produced weather extremes – we have reduced the absorption rate of rain and storm water with buildings, roads and other so called production methods, plus there are repeated ‘natural’ earthquakes, volcanoes and thunderstorms some causing massive fires etc. etc. I see governments etc using climate change drama messages as yet another “let’s scare the people” message! | Stuart |
| It’s been a scam from day one yet the gullible are sucked in by the pseudo scientism cult of climate change. It’s now more of a superstition for many who have no knowledge about the climate and rely on the lies of grifters and liars. It’s time it went into the garbage pit of history along with attempts to turn lead into gold. | John |
| “Oops, science was ‘settled’-until it wasn’t: Plants absorb 31 % more C02 than we thought” from SciTechDaily. Concerning the treaty rubbish, after yesterdays performance from the maori and green radicals in the house, it just shows these people are not mature enough to control 50% of our democray let alone the countries purse strings, what we saw was stone age politics at its best, if this is what our country is turning into I don’t hold much hope for the future. National and Luxton, they are scared wet blankets, or should we me more to the point, just bedwetters, did Luxton do a deal with the maori king, look after maori and you will have a good couple of terms in power, I don’t trust any of these politicians any more, the remind me of the msm. | Sven |
| Plucked out of thin air; causes fear amongst the masses; encourages the west to buy credits from the corrupt, poverty-ridden and failed socialist/communist countries (mainly in Africa); originated in the United Nations and is driven by that same corrupt organisation. It is the proverbial crock on a worldwide scale!! | Gerard |
| Just do it. What good is a policy that says everyone is out of step but us. Rubbish. | Paloma |
| The climaye has changed many times in history. What is needed is to manage for the prospect of extreme events: don’t build on flood plains, don’t build on potentially unstable hilltops., improve water flow offs and any effective ways to avoid flooding or risk areas. | James |
| It always was a load of rubbish | Tom |
| absolutely……… It’s just another huge fraud the same as Covid was…… | John |
| Seems to me that the National party is the Labour part in drag. Luxon seems determined to learn the hard way. Remember this Chris, you’re there because the people put you there. They’ll happily remove you as well. By the people, for the people. You’ve shown your colours after your comments on the treaty principles bill will haunt you, as you clearly don’t believe in equal rights for all. | Mike |
| Its a scam to part hard working tax payers of their hard earned dollars. | Grant |
| We are not the ones that are adding to this catastrophe, USA, China, India, Russia, are the leaders with all the crap they put into the atmosphere. | Laurie |
| In addition we need to ask the following: What has happened to all the climate tax money that has been sent to Paris. Given the whole climate crisis is a con, demand to have the money returned | Roger |
| Very definitely. There are more important issues to spend money on. Also no other country would care. | Russ |
| Day by day, the nonsense of “Carbon Zero”, and the appalling cost of ever achieving it, is becoming readily apparent to more and more people. | John |
| Should never have signed up!!1 | Greg |
| New Zealand could sink in to the ocean and all of us with it, and that would not make a blind bit of difference to Co2 levels or perceived “climate change”. | Deb |
| Also pull out of the UN, the Who and the WEF | Claire |
| It was never achievable and any money would be better spent on mitigation of impending disasters we know are going to happen rather than all the effort to what we think might reduce emissions, but never to an extent it would make any difference whatsoever. | Steve |
| Because Climate chance is a scam to take more money from the over worked lower and middle classes of New Zealand. | David |
| Governments should be for all of us – not just they / them – Ordinary hardworking New Z Zealanders must come first, every time | David |
| We should follow the leader | Phil |
| Yes the US have found their Driver Again and we need to look at ours very carefully | Phil |
| Until China, Russia, India are even interested why are we spending money that could hospitals education etc , | Doug |
| It’s an absolute wrought! | Vern |
| It is the biggest scam the world has ever seen. | Bev |
| too much hypocrisy in those allied to it. Australia for example selling coat flat out to China. Visit Hong Kong, ascend the Peak and see the wonderful view of Victoria harbour. Problem is you cannot see the H arbour or much else because of the industrial smog/smoke coming across from mainland China. Green credits ?????? God defend New Zealand. | Bruce |
| NZ must call the “climate scam” for what it really is i.e. BS | Richard |
| NZ should never have signed up in the first place. If that oilfield in Russia’s old part of Asia has been emitting a quarter of the world’s methane with no sign of stopping, what difference would our tiny bit make? | Sheila |
| Climate Change is a total Globalist SCAM! NZ should never have got involved with it. | John |
| and stop giving maori money | donald |
| Absolutely! | Pamela |
| Totally pull out! It’s a complete SCAM! Contrived scam and defraud ordinary people of more money. Get out of it now! Goneburger! | Peter |
| It’s a gravy train | Barry |
| Let’s follow the true science. | John |
| ASAP | Geoffrey |
| We will have no effect on the climate of the world and simply can’t afford the cost. | Barry |
| Voters NEED to tell luxon to listen to US VOTERS & DONT ignore the treaty as nothing,GROW UP the voters put you in but ignore us & be woike & you,ll NEVER be elected again.NZ is broke because LARGE money was put into net zero WAKE up nearly all europe is opening their coal mines they shut & using oil & gas again.PLANT more trees clean up our rivers ITS NOT FOSSIL FUELS CAUSING THIS TROUBLE, our grandmothers & MOST generations before them used gas & coal & THERE WAS NO TROUBLE so LOOK back its NOT FOCIAL FUELS its US NOW,we need to look after the trees we have & plant more,cllean up our rivers raise barriers by rivers USE COMMON SENSE & do what MOST OF EUROPE & THE USA HAVE DONE & GROW UP & STOP BEING WOKE WE ARE ALL SUPPSED TO BE EQUAL SO VOTE FOR ACTS TREATY BILL & START LISTENING TO US VOTERS OR FACE REGECTION | Cindy |
| Pull out. | Ann |
| The Paris Climate agreement stated that no moves should be made that effect the production of food. Well we took no notice of that so why belong if you don’t intend following protocol. | Denis |
| Why are we limiting growth at the expense of climate change and reducing our living standards to a level of poverty when other major countries are expanding their wealth through extracting wealth from the ground. This climate change is a Ponzi scheme. And while we are if National and Luxon don’t move quickly and support Seymour’s Treaty Bill AND REMOVE THE Waitangi TRIBUNAL PLUS THE MAORI ELITE THEIR SUPPORT WILL PLUMMET | KEN |
| Absolutely | Terry |
| We are going too slowly and allowing the opposition to build up resistance. National is too weak and woke. | John |
| It could destroy our country…and only a fool would allow that to happen. | Peter |
| Absolutely & needs to be done urgently. . | Christina |
| Yes. Because any change we could make would be the size of a pin head in the overall. | bruce |
| absolutely! | Mary-Pat |
| There is absolutely no point in a little country producing only 0.016% of global emissions crippling our economy just to virtue signal. | Geoffrey |
| The greenies want to kill all the cattle and sheep and will destroy the NZ economy. They have no alternative that will replace that export income. So where will the money come from to fund our national services? The farmers made NZ what it is today – the most efficient and best food producer in the world. | Kerry |
| The climate change hoax is the biggest scam of all time designed to make every country broke and starving. If you beleive in it you are truly brainwashed and wouldnt know the truth if you fell over it. Perfect example of indoctrination by our education system. How do you unbrainwash the masses from a corrupt system? | Alan |
| It was a good idea to follow the leaders but at what cost to the country, time for it to go. | Garth |
| Of course makes no sense at all for the pain to achieve a minute outcome if at all and to the detriment of our future in farming | Alan |
| Co2 causing global warming has no basis in science | Robert |
| i THINK it wont happen as NZ is too entrenched iN the “virtue signalling”cultur, .however the climate agenda was well orchestrated and in plan since the Cluv of Rome in the 60s as the next new finianclal scheme- the green deals. done of course thru fear mongering. climate is changing always has always will. its so much bigger than us as far controlling it however it aappears it dosent stop the man made inter vetnions of geo engineering to enforce the narrative. The weather evenst lately reported as unprecedented may be true but i think a helping hand has been an factor. Paid and funded science or actual facts without biase? There is no climate crisis only crisis are ones created by the ones in Powe- follow the money! | angela |
| The largest polluters ( & largest NZ trading partners) are not complying with the Paris Accord targets so NZ should also withdraw. | Wayne |
| Long overdue | Terry |
| Sooner rather than later | Audrey |
| Yes it is an organised transfer of wealth | Julie |
| The “Climate Crisis” is just a myth. The sooner we stop paying money towards this myth the better. | Ken |
| Until I dia and China get involved all we are doing is punishing our farmers and achieving nothing | Jenna |
| ASAP | Gerry |
| No point in paying into something that will never deliver. The weather is the weather and the climate is the climate. | John |
| we all agree with the objective but there is a significant cost to everyone, and no one wants to pay for it | David |
| The whole idea is based on a false premise. | Robbie |
| It This do called agreement disadvantages us way too much | Peter |
| Climate change, Global warming or whatever you like to call it is one of biggest hoax’s that the UN, WHO etc. have ever created. Sure, we have be diligent over pollution with land, water and atmosphere . | Wayne |
| It is meaningless and the price paid is too high. | Lucy |
| It’s a rort | Iain |
| Yes we should pull out of this accord. We should also do our best to reduce pollution of the air, ground and water which would be a commonsense and socially responsible thing to do. As for National, they need to change direction decisively or risk being thrown into the political wilderness in two years time. Luxon seems to be fixated on capturing the political left, a complete waste of effort. He should be concentrating on supporting those who voted for him. | Peter |
| Biggest scam of my lifetime | Mark |
| Human input to global warming is negligible… and little NZ contributes almost nothing. Climate change is constant and there is nothing we can do about it. The world temperature was higher in the 11th century than it is now…a fact that the Greenies (and sadly, ignorant Luxon) prefer to ignore as it doesn’t fit their mindset. | Peter |
| The board of the Climate Commission should all be sacked for pushing their agenda to slaughter millions of sheep and cattle to reduce climate emissions. | Roger |
| Most definately YES….The tyrants, at the EU/WEF/NATO/F.A.O, will be applying their FASCIST/AGENDA21/50, in 2025, but will have to face DONALD TRUMP !! | David |
| NZs cost of climate change nonsense is crippling our once thriving rural sector & must go. | Derek |
| It can’t come soon enough. | John |
| It’s a rort that is past its use by date | John |
| ask the same question as Maureen Pugh where is the proof man is causing global warming? | Stanley |
| OST certainly | Gary |
| The world’s biggest scam | john |
| Pull out immediately – it is not based on true science, we have weather cycles | paula |
| Go SMR nuclear, geo-thermal & hydro … & with gas backup for intermittent ‘renewables’ | Jocko |
| Climate change is an absolute rort | Allan |
| Pragmatism is the right option. No future for a tiny emitter like NZ in climate martyrism. | Geoff |
| Absolutely, total nonsense. NZ will make no difference to so called Climate change as its a scam. | James |
| But it wont happen as long as Luxon is leader, he is 100% net zero but it will be interesting if Peter Dutton is elected in Aussie next year as they may well follow Trump | Maureen |
| NZ. Should withdraw from the agreement because it is nothing but a scam. | Rob |
| And we need to go much harrder on eliminating woke driven entrenchment like identity politics and racial preference for Maori. | Mike |
| Yes, it is ridiculous to think we could control the climate. | Kate |
| It is idealogical nonsense , the cost of which cannot be justified | John |
| Yes absolutely. However, New Zealand politicians will continue to sabotage our wealth in favor of the green religion. | Sam |
| absolutely | Ro |
| A great big YES | Carol |
| Yes – the whole thing is a massive scam | Roy |
| Wholeheartedly YES, and also remove the ETS which is founded on IPCC acknowledged flawed assumptions! | Kevin |
| absolutely we should but that spineless Luxon would never do such a thing, he has completely bought into the globalist scam | Alastair |
| Absolutely..!! | Vic |
| Al Gore’s get rich scheme has been a nonsense from the start! | John |
| I will never vote National again ever. They are not listening to us an deserve to be thrown out of power unless they grow a spine and reverse course on their groveling acceptance of Maori Tribal rule. | John |
| Absolutely we should | Sheena |
| DO IT NOW!!! | GORDON |
| We are a pimple on the global stage. Let’s not ruin our economy chasing climate change rainbows! | David |
| It is,was and always has been a Climate Con! | Mark |
| The Labour gvt set us on a path of virtual self destruction with their climate policies. These are based mostly on extremist views not facts. | Douglas |
| The Paris Accord is about power & control rather than about saving the world from man made climate change, so we should have never signed up in the first place. | John |
| Put the money towards agricultural research reducing emissions, among other things. | Rex |
| Immediately. | Mark |
| And the sooner the better. | Grahame |
| The whole climate agenda is a scam!!! | Ron |
| It is a total money laundering scam. | Roger |
| NZ is a tiny spec of land surrounded by windswept westerly winds — it is absolutely illogical to think measures the far left want to adopt will make a jot of difference to our climate. It is utter nonsense in the extreme. | John |
| Vilifying our friend carbon dioxide is at the pinnacle of ignorance. | Bruce |
| Follow the money…. It’s a scam! | John |
| A possible hoax based on changing weather cycles . Nor will NZ withdraw from UNDRIP – it does not rock the boat in such matters. | mary |
| If your commentator had personally been exposed to Trump’s disrespect for the law, he would see through the veil of Fox News and see him as a scofflaw and nararchist | dene |
| I have a huge folder of Climate Change commentaries from very highly qualified, senior, Professors from many of the most respected universities in the world. Whilst they don’t deny that the climate is changing, they all agree that the woke analyses and emphasis on CO2 is not the main cause of the Greenhouse gas effect. The hype and misleading models created by peer reviews of the juniors who are being paid to conform with the lies needs to be exposed. New Zealand should also pull out of the useless United Nations pact who are complicit in this and fail in every other role they play. | Dave |
| Their objectives are unattainable without major distruption to our economy and way of life and anyway, the whole ‘idea’ that climate change is caused by humans is the biggest scam ever. | Brenda |
| I am in complete agreement with EVERY POINT in your letter, Muriel! “A Day of Reckoning”. Thank you! I am absolutely thrilled that Donald J Trump became President again. I am wishing that he will be able to do all that is needed and praying he does not get assinated, also. I feel that all the comments about him are spot-on! Upwards and Onwards for NZ, in the future, hopefully. | Valerie |
| End the scam | Peter |
| And the WHO too . . . | David |
| Climate change is a scam. | Mike |
| YES – absolutely! | Glenn |
| The financial burden is far too high in relation to any real (or perceived) benefit. Also, “initiatives” like the Paris Climate Agreement are globalist tools for exerting [unelected] control and wealth transfer to the [so called] elites (i.e. globalist masters). | Charles |
| Absolutely. This climate rubbish is one to the biggest political scams of our life time. | Christine |
| We should never have signed up to it in the first place. | BrUcE |
| Of course yes but we will not because we are too woke. | Ray |
| It’s so logical | Christina |
| .06% of the world’s population can only virtue signal, New Zealand can have no possible effect on climate outcomes. No point in living in abject poverty when all we need to do is comply with the minimum expectations of trading partners. | David |
| Global warming / climate change is cycles within our solar system, very little to do with mankind. | Neil |
| And a refund of money paid. | Martin |
| when most of the world order is ignoring the climate it is stupid to carry on with the targets that are basicly going to bankrupt nz | LesW |
| It is a scam!! | James |
| Shit yeah! its a massive con job just like the treaty industry. Burn them both at the stake. And throw the mainstream media criminals on the fire for good measure. | Glyn J |
| Its a total rip. | Mike |
| What effect does NZ Climate policy have on the WORLD any way?? | michael |
| It was plucked out of thin air and has no substance behind it. | Gerard |
| 100% | Peter |
| The Govt needs to take a reality check and make some pragmatic decisions based on economic outcomes. NZ is never going to save the world by committing climate Hari-Kari. | Francis |
| This has been obvious for years. | Ray |
| Do our own thing in our own timeframes. No changes to cow or sheep numbers! | Mike |
| Unfortunately it is Chris Luxon who needs to get with the program. Climate Change was ALWAYS a nonsense. It needs to be thrown in the dustbin of history. | ken |
| An important first step in turning our failing economy around. | Rodger |
| Yes yes yes! | Steve |
| The agreement is a scam. | Dan |
| Absolutely, and the sooner the better! | Mike |
| Scrapping all NetZero legislation and facing up to militant Islam are the two most important political issues today | Andy |
| We should have resigned years ago. | Robert |
| For New Zealand it is a pure ugly form of wealth destruction….Oil and gas rigs should have been surrounding our country decades ago…We are going nowhere . Lost forever . Our hopes and dreams shattered. | chris |
| Absolutely. China, New Zealand’s largest trading partner, is not in it, so there is no issue there. As soon as the United States abandons it, New Zealand should follow. It is a recipe for economic disaster for this nation. | Gavin |
| waste of time and money to continue | Ian |
| AND Christopher Luxon should also find the courage to support David Seymour’s bill, to give equality to ALL New Zealanders, regardless of race. | Nola |
| The sooner the better | Graeme, |
| And pull out of WHO, WEF, UN | Viv |
| 24 Billion It is bigger rort than the Maori gravy train! | murray |
| While we self-flagellate the world’s two biggest emitters march on without constraint or cost. | malcolm |
| Absolutely | Joanne |
| It is just one big Socialist scam designed guilt trip the wealthier nations to send money to the 3rd world corrupt ridden Governments where the money will go straight into the pockets of the Dictators and the climate will continue on as nature dictates. | Allan |
| Should have done this 12 years ago, but nz poorly led politically. | Noel |
| bloody right we should It is a nonsense to even dream of our ability to change nature’s ways | Robert |
| It is a great Ponzi scheme and will not stop the climate change that has been going on for ever! | Henning |
| YES. | Ray |
| It is a no-brainer! | David |
| we are hobbling ourselves with an artificial carbon credit schemes. While China is building one coal fired power station every 2 weeks! | john |
| Absolutely it’s a tax grabbing scam supported by our corrupt Cluxcinda | Greg |
| THE AGREEMENT IS A LOAD OF BS | Rob |
| to do would let the country to move ahead | Barry |
| Politics is theatre created by “they” to give the tax slaves the sense “their vote counts”, which it does not as the government wins EVERY time. As far as the Paris accord, yes, leave, but make sure you have a contingency as “they” will punish any country financially that don’t go along with any of their agenda. The Banksters rule the world. Every one of the divisive and corrosive agendas across the world today is orchestrated by “they”. Politicians don’t have a say, they are as much puppets to “they” as we are to politicians. | larry |
| The Paris Accord can achieve very little for NZ when the greatest offenders of pollution fail to execute their responsibilities under the agreement. In real terms NZ is, or very near, zero emissions already. The annoying factor is that our government is told by the so called authorities including the UN to try harder. Its a complete nonsense. | chris |
| Even wealthy countries are unable to afford what the climate activists want. Renewable energy exist because of subsities and do not keep the lights on & economy going forward. Currently the internet server farms consume around 8% of the worlds electricity. No wonder Google & Amazon are buying mini Nuclear power stations for reliable power ! | Dane |
| Definitely | Terry |
| asap | Alec |
| Our Government should never have signed NZ to it, in the first instance.I fail to see how money can change the climate.ie the sun, rain and wind velocity.It was utter madness to send our country broke. But this woke bob each way, disappointment of a PM will not with draw NZ. | Gwenda |
| YES! It is another scam, just like the previous one of 2020. | Heather |
| A resounding yes. And as is pointed out, there are many other areas that the woke NZ Nat led government can learn from and follow. | Neil |
| Global warming is only a VERRY low percentage Man Made – (5% ?). Stop thia total BULLSHIT – NOW. | Brian |
| Why should NZ citizens support a system that will keep them from being able to support their families. Let’s accept NZ is being seen as out of touch and supports losers with welfare benefits. We need to grow up and get rid of the decisive propaganda being peddled by the so called tribal elite. NZ for New Zealanders first. | Mike |
| The biggest rort thus century. | Robyn |
| There are things a country can do to mitigate the effects of climate change. However our country appears to have gone over the top with regulations. | Dennis |
| The agreement wont work. | paul |
| Totally agree.. many of the countries pursuing these agendas are hypocrites .. eg Norway .- targeting a domestic 50% reduction in Greenhouse gas emissions by 2030, with revenues from oil sn gas sales making up a large portion of GDP.. NIMBY ? | Rob |
| Because there is no provable evidence of man-made carbon emissions directly causing atmospheric warming or cooling. | Gordon |
| Just a waste of space | Murray |
| We should never succumbed to non-scientific emotional nonsense. – still believed by 85% of irrational NZers | Hylton |
| Big polluters are out | Patrick |
| Climate change seems to have become a new industry | Gerhard |
| No Doubts whatsoever… The whole scam is no less than to pull the wool over tax-payers eyes for the last 20 years, whilst the Elite that have “invested” in the SCAM get richer by the day, and the Climate doesn’t change one iota! | Graham |
| YES – and pretty darn quickly please. | Carl |
| Defifnately YES! New Zealands contribution to global warming is so miniscule, that if we sunk beneath the waves tomorrow, it wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference to the way the world is running – climate change is a scam, in my books, so get rid of it, and take the elitist maori party with you on the way out, thanks | Trevor |
| I dont beleive that anything is being achieved through being a member of this farcical group, nothing is happening. | Barbara |
| Definitely | Gary |
| Look after New Zealanders first | Brenda |
| Should never had agreed to it | Beverley |
| Most definitely. It is a pack of lies. Spend the money on something useful. | Colin |
| The only sensible option. | Vic |
| The whole Agreement is a farce. | Annie |
| And at the same time pull the plug on the Kyoto accord and all other agreements supported by the Greens and the UN, all proven to be scams. | Rex |
| Why should a little country like NZ bother trying, when we produce so little pollution & the major countries like India, China & the US do not care. Ardern & her cronies are a pack of idiots. NZ needs to pull out & move forward for the benefit of all Kiwi’s. | david |
| Just like the Covid scam the climate fraud wreaks of falsehoods and never proven truths . Innuendos ,lies and unproven data can never be taken seriously. Tangible proof MUST accompany all climate change observations to support the myths of those who seek to bend reality by deception. Only the provable truth can be considered. | fred |
| It is not an agreement. There is no consensus and those in favour of plundering nations are to the front. Get rid of the WEF and like trash and see that anthropogenic climate change is a myth. Incidentally where the hell does all the money go ???? | Alan |
| NZ ‘s climate policies (no thanks to Jacinda) could bankrupt the country as the price we’re paying for being green” is exorbitant when compared to other countries overseas, especially those with whom we trade. Will any government have the gumption and the political will to say, “enough is enough”? Sadly, I suspect not. | Laurence |
| Zealand and America definitely get out of the Paris Climate Treaty now. Effectively they are enslaving us with our own taxes taken by the threat of force. | Donald |
| As the upcoming COP29 is showing the Paris agreement has morphed into a lolly scramble and is doing nothing to the climate. The World Bank which administers the funds donated by the first world cannot account for $41 billion. | Peter |
| It is ludicrous that NZ is destroying its own economy in the name of climate change when our effors will not make one jot of difference to sea levels. It’s a political game, it’s not sensible, especially when China and USA are thumbing thier noses to the rest of the world’s efforts. Even if China and the USA came on board, I’m not convinced that their effors would make any difference either. Just imagine the damage done by just one big volcanic eruption | John |
| YES | howard |
| NZ should never joined the Paris agreement in the first place. | Peter |
| It’s just a load of BS designed to fleece ordinary hard working people to pay the elites to sit around having talk fests | Laurie |
| It’s a waste of time | Clive |
| No question this is a global leftist scam. | David |
| It’s a total fabrication – we are in a CO2 deficit if anything. | Rick |
| Of course. It is pure and utter nonsence. | charles |
| indeed….. nuff said | Gill |
| I have been saying that from the time it was signed. | pdm |
| ASAP | Andy |
| Common sense tells us climate is always changing. It is not a man made phenomenon. Mankind must care for the planet-yes. Mankind cannot control climate change. NZ should pull out of the Paris Climate Agreementfothwith. | Barbara |
| Yes – the US is proposing to pull out of it – we need to do the same. Better still – we should show them how much of a world leader we are and beat them to it! | Scott. |
| New Zealand has been’ singing from the same song sheet’ as the United Nations would have us all do under the manipulation of the Globalist Elite for many years . It is time New Zealand woke up ,like America is beginning to now. Global Warming /Climate Change has been nothing but a fear tactic from the beginning. | Harvey |
| Put resources towards peace and happiness | Mat |
| Enough of the woke ‘science’ and give us affordable, reliable power please. | Mark |
| Absolutely, definitely they should. Man made climate change is one of the biggest scams ever and our country is being disadvantaged by its commitment to the Agreement. | John |
| It is but a fraud! | John |
| We hacve to distance ourselves from this climate change crap | Colin |
| Yes, as fast as we can. I believe most of climate change to be an absolute scam. | Paul |
| The climate has been changing since the earth from rock and space dust and it will continue to do so. Read the science and understand that we are making very little difference. The ETS is the biggest scam in the world. | Alastair |
| Climate regs are cauterizing agriculture killing the gas industry and bankrupting an already overtaxed, over over regulated NZ | Marshal |
| Any spending under ‘climate change’ should be for mitigating effects of atmospheric change. eg better flood protection and more stored water for drought. | Russ |
| Absolutely! How can humans change the climate when we produce only 3% of the planets CO2 emissions. | Grant |
| Time to end the elitist scam. | Lee |
| Climate agreements are just a money making ruse. | Peter |
| absolutely ! | mike |
| I don’t believe that anything is going to stop climate change. It is way too late but besides this it has happened many times in the past as determined by our scientists and geologists. | Jan |
| We need to follow the science – and the science does not support the propaganda of climate catastrophism. Read the actual science reports of the IPCC – not the politicised summary report, or the BS pedalled by NIWA etc. | Henry |
| Yes indeed | Warren |
| The whole climate hysteria is a fraud and rort. The climate is always changing in the cosmic economy, outside of mans control. So-called man-made causes are irrelevant or negligible. Pollution is a different matter. | Jack |
| Waste of money and time | Barbara |
| Complying with the Paris accord has no relevance to New Zealand – our emissions are a drop in the bucket of global emissions and to NZ is handicapped in energy resource by adhering to the Paris accord. We should revert to using our own efficient coal rather than ikmporting poor quality coal from Indonesia. | Donald |
| 100% | Paul |
| Should have LONG ago. Food production was NOT part of it yet the Climate Commission wants to lower sheep and cattle numbers dramatically. We can feed a huge number of people, but if we do not have animals. The Climate Commission members should be put to the sword (or is that a bit strong)? | Dick |
| Most certainly. Spend the money fixing up the environment at home | David |
| In my opinion a total scam. | Audrey |
| They are a lot of hui and no doie. | Evans |
| Ask yourselves you harbingers of climate grief, will it make any consequential difference to world levels of CO2 emissions? | William |
| It has been a costly experiment. | scottie |
| the sooner the better, it’s nothing but a scam | Francis |
| ABSOLUTELY, it’s a SCAM | Mike |
| Definitely its a Sham | Kevin |
| Climate will change as a fact of nature. NZ going fir carbon zero will have NO EFFECT to change that. Stop the green nonsense now. | Dave |
| Definitely | Steve |
| It’s about time that politicians engaged credible scientific advisors to advise them of the facts that climate is a natural event which humans have no ability to change other than by a catastrophic nuclear war. | Ronnie |
| Climate Change is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated. Another name for climate change is weather!!! And that has been changing since well before humans inhabited this earth. | Bruce |
| The climate crisis is a total scam. REAL scientists say so. | Grant |
| Its a damn scam. The only way to reach Net Zero is to kill every human and every animal. We are all emitters. The Climate Cult is crazy and out of control. | Jenny |
| Yes,Yes, Yes….And the UN. and the W.E.F, and the W.H.O, and the F.A.O, AND ALL the other terrorist/tyrant ORGS, that think they control the world! | David |
| As quickly as possible | Cyril |
| New Zealand under Labour was in the same place as the US under the Biden administration totally need to get out of climate agreement and get rid of Luxon at the same time | Pete |
| Never should have signed up in the first place. | Jane |
| The whole climate change has always been a scam.More and more people start to see this. | Peter |
| 100% | Ross |
| Another bloody woke dream | Chris |
| Yes ,yes,yes,the sooner the better | gale |
| YES !!! Like the wuhan virus this is all a major con job designed to turn law abiding people into sheep!!! Climate change, CO2 emissions, global warming hysteria is ALL bullshit. | Dave |
| The agreement is a drain on our economy which we don’t need especially given it delivers nothing. | Sally |
| I voted yes, but the problem we have is we can get screwed over by bigger countries ,where the US cant!!!! | Les |
| It is a big con – aka the swindle factory as Barnaby Joyce in AU says | Doug |
| It’s just a house of cards | Kerry |
| Yes total waste of time and resources. | Fraser |
| It’s such a rort and such a lot of total bullshit. | Bruce |
| Absolutely! This would bring New Zealand onto a much better level by stopping wasteful spending on brainfarts. | Michael |
| Waste of money | Allan |
| Its just another, but bigger con. | john |
| Very much Yes | Geoffrey |
| Pull out in a ‘Heartbeat’. The Climate Accords are nothing but a huge unscientific World wide Scam to funnel Money into some ‘Billionaire’s Pocket | Geoff |
| Yes. It’s hoax, its unachievable and costly. | caren |
| Everyone knows that ‘CLIMATE CHANGE’, is a huge hoax, a giant money collective for the ‘GREAT RESET’ TYRANTS, at the UN/WEF/NWO…. | David |
| the sun is heating up the earth – no matter what we do it will keep heating us up Paris agreement is a rort. | anna |
| Yes, of course we should. Whatever contribution we could make, at whatever cost to our economy, could never be noticed on a global scale. Luxon,of course, will not do this; he is too busy posturing as a leader, which patently he is not, and kowtowing to the vested interests who pullhis strings. | TOBY |
| The biggest hoax in world history. | layor |
| Just read Ian Bradford’s amazing informative book. Spending billions on a lost cause, and even attending COP24 in an oil rich country is madness. | Jacki |
| It’s unachievable, far too costly and the countries that should be in are not. | Rose |
| Great article, agree wholeheartedly | Ian |
| Climate change is a money making scam for world elites Eds an independent investigation.Also geo engineering | Keith |
| The Climate Change prophets should read the science | Ian |
| CO2 is present in the atmosphere at 0.04% and its characteristics are that it is a naturally occurring harmless trace gas that is essential for life. The Greens cannot endow it with new characteristics. And the Keeling Curve is slipshod research | Toby |
| Wake up Christopher Luxton | Judith |
| Definatley. It’s Bullsh**t designed to drive all into poverty & control. read the honest scientific evidence | Andrew |
| Of course we should, but Luxon is noot up to the task. | Rod |
| Wake up National or you will loose the backing of NZers. Deal to the concerns that matter most to most National votes which is race base issues | Heather |
| We need to follow the US on this and all New Zealanders will be better off. As for killing off large numbers of our stock utterly rediclious. May Labour, Greens and Maori party NEVER reign again. All idiots.. | Allan |
| It is a joke! Look at COP29, another joke and hyprocrisy at it’s finest. Get out and protect the economy and citizens of NZ | hilary |
| Climate change is a total man made sham. | helen |
| Yes I think this Climate change so a hoax | Geoff |
| Is & always has been ‘the emperor with no clothes’ | Mark |
| These agreements are a waste of time as half the countries involved ignore them anyway. They cost NZ dearly and the only ones who benefit are the politicians et al who go on taxpayer funded junkets to attend meetings | Chris |
| Climate disaster is a fraud. Why should NZ lead the world in reducing emissions when no one else does. | Graham |
| We do not want.the UN rule the world! | Dominique |
| its a load of bull, climate always changes and not by mankind | niall |
| Leave the climate accords | Steve |
| If Ardern was for it, then it’s only good for the liberal/ socialist elites. Kill it now | Alwyn |
| The world’s biggest scam!! Let our already efficient farmers recommend what should be done. Power to the people!! | Ray |
| And we should never have signed it in the first place | Peter |
| Well overdue | John |
| YES YES and YES. There is not a climate emergency never has been and probably never will be. Let’s face it the name was changed from Global Warming to Climate Change mainly because the planet refused to warm as predicted. Also, how many of the doomsayers, predictions have in fact come true? Answer NONE | Cookie |
| A must do | Jo |
| We only admith 0.17% and need to look after our economy….yes pull out | Fiona |
| Also, UN, WHO, WEF and all other foreign NGO’s, masquerading as “think-tanks, partners, stake-holders” ect. | neil |
| Would be the best thing to happen for NZ to pull out of that BS | Pavel |
| Billions of dolllars down the drain | Arthur |
| The whole climate change agenda is just a money making scheme, climate has always changed and it is not manmade | sue |
| The whole climate change fiasco is a farce & should be abolished & the money spent on our roads which are 3rd world | Chris |
| Absolutely long over due! | Gail |
| We should never have fallen for that stupid scheme in the first place. The sooner we extract ourselves the better off we will become. | Bruce |
| I agree that the Paris Climate Agreement is a deplorable scam. Disgraceful how goons from all over the world feel entitled to fly to these COP meetings to preach to us how our world is ending because cows’ fart. | Peter |
| We are way too small to have any effect on climate change either way | Bryan |
| It is a HOAX. | Michael |
| and all the other useless NGO’s, COP, WOF, WEF, UN and scrap Climate Comm and countless other swamps. Maybe move parliament to Auckland and leave government in Wellington. Missiles go that distance easily. | John |
| Also get rid of the woke globalist Luzon. | Terry |
| Climate change is outright deceit. Global centralisation of power. And the stolen then transfer of painful tax money ripped off hard working kiwis to the global underworld gamblers | John |
| NZ must also stop funding legacy media and defend the education and universities to the extend that only functional studies, vital for the economy, infrastructure and health are assisted with taxpayer money. Fat change of that as we just found out we have a woke, left leaning fool as a PM who does not believe in equality and doesn’t believe his NZ government should be the only government. Taking a few items of the agenda of the left is only done for economic reasons. Not the man to lead a unified country, just a dangerous dreamer. | Leonard |
| There is no man made climate change whereas there have always been climate changes | Klaus |
| It’s a childish fantasy that we in NZ could possibly do anything to influence the global climate. It’s a global scam. | Peter |
| Global warming can be stopped by taxing me? It’s not even a thing… | mark |
| absolutely yes, just a total waste of time and money when the biggest contributors to pollution and so called green house gases arent involved and carry on their merry way | john |
| Every climate agenda should be asked: First, what is the cost? Second, what difference will it make to the climate? | Clive |
| Spend the money in NZ on climate mitigation. | Andrew |
| Why should we suffer to enhance an illusory image to the rest of the world? | Daniel |
| It is insane to keep up this nonsense. Climate change is now just a political and corporate vehicle for control | Clifford |
| And pull out of the WHO | Rod |
| now | Wiremu |
| It is just a tax rort | Geoff |
| waste of money | Chris |
| Too tiny a country to wreck the country by sacrificing major exports which are major income earners | david |
| Absolutely, but can you see “woke” Luxon making such a bold step as that. He’s lost my vote next time around and Act look like picking mine up. | Lawrie |
| Should never have signed up for this egregious scam in the first place same as the covid scam! But as Luxon is a woke WEF puppet it will never happen | chris |
| The sooner the better. Such a waste of money when we are already ‘greener’ than most countries in the world. | Janette |
| It’s a gigantic scam (climate change) | sandra |
| This has been a rort by the elite making heaps of money pushing global control | Gareth |
| Preferable, they should say they will stay if China and India are no longer treated as undeveloped countries. This of course will not happen. | Chuck |
| Yes – it’s time to pull out of that Agreement. | Murray |
| It’s a scam | Gavin |
| This Net Zero nonsense is the highway to the economic poorhouse. | Karen |
| Luxon and Watts need to understand that GHG emissions are not dangerous. Please tell them ASAP | RICHard |
| It was all based on lies. | Doug |
| Yes – I’ve never felt anything different on this subject. From Day One… | Andrew |
| NZ should never have entered it. Jacinda entered it to get payments from Antonio to finnance her during her stay in Europe. Climete change is a UN money making scam ! The future will prove that ! | Pierre |
| What is this supposed to achieve.? We are bankrupting our country whilst India, China and other major industrial nations carry on regardeless! | Sylvia |
| Absolutely, and actively defund universityies whom are pushing treaty issues in all forms, hence cancelling free speech and thought and creative projects. | Ross |
| 110 percent | John |
| It’s a dead duck | Nev |
| Yes. So much Green Party rhetoric | Ray |
| Remove NEW ZEALAND From this leftist Woke Society Immediately before they totally disintegrate any possible means for generating income for a successful society. | Michael Andrew |
| Climate change is a hoax! | Robyn |
| the whole climate hoax is ending | aln |
| and the who and anything to do with wef | John |
| Yes Yes Yes, for heavens sake. yes Get rid of the rort. and it is a rort. a way for the One World Govt to redistribute the wealth of a country to a cesspit of third world countries with NO accountability at all for how those funds are spent. It is disgusting misuse of hard earnt taxpayer funds. | Carolyn |
| New Zealand ‘s contribution to global warming is so small it is not measurable so there is no need for NZ to be a signatory to the Paris Agreement | Ben |
| Absolutely! NZ should have pulled out of the Paris agreement years ago. It is a self inflicted recipe for economic disaster. | David |
| America is showing the lead. We should follow. Our biggest trading partner, China, has never been involved, so they are not going to complain. The other thing is that by dropping all of the stupid climate regulations, prices will fall, so that will be good for our trading partners as well. | Murray |
| The Coalition needs to get real on climate policy. They are still deliberately using Labour’s false calculations on methane an d sea level rise to make our climate “problem” appear far worse than it should be. Shame on them! | Pauline |
| I would vote for a party that campaigned on ditching the whole socialist net zero agenda if there was one. And I bet I’m not alone. Come on, politicians, step up! | Simon |
| As soon as the US pulls out, NZ should do the same. | Justin |