Cheap, reliable energy is the lifeblood of progress. Yet as we approach winter, concerns are already being raised about the security of New Zealand’s electricity supplies.
Because of a lack of rain, our hydro-lakes are lower than they should be at this time of year, and there has already been talk of possible blackouts. While wind and solar energy can help, they are notoriously unreliable. A shortage of natural gas to run the Huntley back-up power generator, and a lack of local coal means more reliance on imported coal.
Looking at our power system as a whole, around 60 percent of our electricity is generated through hydropower, 18 percent geothermal, 9 percent gas, 8 percent wind and solar, and just over 2 percent from coal.
We have more than 100 hydro schemes, seven geothermal plants, 19 operational wind farms, a handful of solar farms, and the country’s main thermal backup generator is the Huntley Power Station, which can run on gas, coal or biomass.
In 2023, New Zealand generated 43,000 gigawatt hours of electricity and consumed 39,000, with households accounting for 35 percent of total consumption, followed by industry on 33 percent, commerce 24 percent, the primary sector 6 percent, and transport less than one percent.
As a result of policies introduced to meet the demands of the United Nations Paris Agreement on Climate Change, the security of New Zealand’s electricity system has been severely compromised through the increasing use of intermittent wind and solar power.
The ultimate objective of 100 percent renewable generation is clearly impossible, but the Government continues to pursue it anyway, even though such policies will undoubtedly lead to escalating prices and power shortages.
However, there is hope on the horizon: around the world it is now dawning on the public that the economic sacrifice they are expected to make as a result of their government’s obsession with the UN’s climate agenda, is all for nothing.
The Paris Agreement cannot deliver net zero by 2050 for the simple reason that the global consensus on which the project was based has collapsed. The Agreement was touted as an “all or nothing” deal. Pressure was put on all countries to sign up. We were told everyone needed to do their bit for it to work. Saving the planet – and saving humanity – was a collaborative effort. It depended on all of us.
In other words, as long as every country contributed to net-zero global emissions by 2050, then the future climate apocalypse predicted by UN climate modellers could be averted.
The implication was that if any country faltered, they would be letting everyone down and disaster would befall the planet.
The fact that three countries out of 200 did not ratify the Agreement was seen as immaterial. While Iran, Libya, and Yemen collectively account for around 2 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions, this was not regarded as material enough to derail the agenda.
But when three major signatories, China, India and Russia, that together are responsible for 43 percent of global emissions, indicated they would not begin reducing emissions until long past the 2050 deadline, the entire collaborative project should have been aborted. Instead, it was treated as a minor glitch: “nothing to see here”.
With the US now joining their ranks, pushing the collective output of non-complying nations to more than 57 percent of global emissions, it is impossible to ignore – especially as those countries are making no secret of the fact that they are charging full steam ahead in building fossil fuel capacity to power economic growth and boost prosperity.
Thanks to President Donald Trump’s high profile Executive Order to withdraw the US from the Paris Agreement, the abject futility of the oppressive climate policy regimes being pushed by governments around the world – including New Zealand – can no longer be ignored.
Voters are seeing through the political stupidity and asking why they are being forced to pay for a policy that is destined to fail.
A voter backlash is building.
And what about businesses?
In many countries, the inflated cost of power has forced manufacturers to relocate to nations with more benign policies. Those unable to move out or pass the costs on to consumers, face reduced profitability or closure. The loss of jobs is a tragic testimony of the destructive influence of a climate agenda driven by zealotry instead of reason.
New Zealand saw the effects on business first hand last year when power prices spiked and the forest products company Winstone Pulp International – facing a five-fold escalation in the cost of electricity that took expenditure on power to an unsustainable 40 percent of the company’s costs – closed its doors with the loss of more than two hundred jobs.
Then when North Island wholesale power prices peaked at $826 per megawatt hour, up from $120 the year before, and $56 ten years ago, Pan Pac Forest Products suspended its Hawke’s Bay pulp production until prices came down, saying, “The cost of electricity now far outweighs any profit we can recoup, and it is actually cheaper to halt production.”
With rising power prices forcing up the cost of New Zealand goods and services, there is no doubt that Jacinda Ardern’s Net Zero policies made our problems worse.
As a new Prime Minister back in 2018, claiming that climate change was her generation’s nuclear free moment, she revealed her objectives to students at Victoria University: “When I spoke with Al Gore a few months ago I said that New Zealand’s role in climate change is anchored in who we are as a nation… We have been a world leader on critical issues to humanity by being nuclear free, the first to support women’s vote and now we could be world leading in becoming carbon neutral.”
And so, with Al Gore as a mentor, on the eve of her first major overseas meeting of Commonwealth leaders, Jacinda Ardern set New Zealand on the path to become a world leader in carbon neutrality by announcing a ban on new offshore oil and gas exploration. The fact that there was no warning about her bombshell “Captain’s Call”, no consultation, nor even Cabinet approval, suggests the PM was more concerned about profile building than the good of the country.
While the ban gave her bragging rights on the world stage, locally it was described as “economic vandalism” and a “kick in the guts” for the Taranaki region, that affected 11,000 jobs, a $2.5 billion industry, and led to the decline of our reserves of clean burning natural gas, and an escalation in the importation of Indonesian coal.
It turns out Al Gore was not the only influence on our energy policy. According to then Climate Minister, the Green Party co-leader James Shaw, so too was a youth-based climate activist group Generation Zero: “The Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill was the idea of Generation Zero in 2016, a movement of young people committed to safeguarding the climate that they will grow up in.”
On their website, Generation Zero explains: “Climate change is not only an environmental issue; it is a social issue. Societal inequities caused by the downstream impacts of colonisation and capitalism, place groups such as rangatahi, tangata whenua, tangata moana, people of colour, disabled people, low-income communities, LGBTQIATakatāpui+ folks, women and other marginalised genders on the frontlines of climate change. Decolonisation and upholding mana motuhake as outlined in Te Tiriti o Waitangi are at the heart of this climate-just future.”
No wonder our energy policy is stuffed.
Minister Shaw was also influenced by UK climate leaders, who were invited to New Zealand to advise him on our legislation, which ended up loosely modelled on theirs.
But their model is proving to be a disaster. Although the UK produces only 0.72 percent of global emissions, they now have the highest electricity bills in the developed world, with manufacturers increasingly moving abroad to escape the escalating prices.
While Nigel Farrage’s centre-right Reform Party campaigned at the last election on pulling the country out of the Paris Agreement, the Conservatives have now seen the light.
In a speech last week, their new Party leader Kemi Badenoch described Net Zero by 2050 as ‘fantasy politics’: “Let’s start by telling the truth on energy and net zero. Every single thing we do in our daily lives is dependent on cheap, abundant energy. When energy became cheap and abundant, living standards began to rise, health and life expectancy grew. Cheap, abundant energy is the foundation of civilisation as we know it today. We mess with it at our peril.”
She expressed concern that zero carbon policies were creating a massive over-reliance on China, as the key manufacturer of critical wind, solar, and electric car components. And she pointed out the hypocrisy of climate advocates claiming windfarms, solar farms, and electric cars are a ‘green’ panacea, when they are made with energy from fossil fuels.
Kemi Badenoch believes it’s time to tell the ‘unvarnished truth’: “Net zero by 2050 is impossible. Anyone who has done any serious analysis knows it cannot be achieved without a significant drop in our living standards or worse, by bankrupting us. Responsible leaders don’t indulge in fictions which are going to make families poorer. Or mortgage their children’s future.”
And she made this crucial point: “Without the rest of the world doing the same, we are making our country less safe, less secure and less resilient.”
She could have been speaking about New Zealand.
Without the rest of the world sacrificing their future to chase the impossible zero carbon goal, New Zealanders are being treated like fools. With our contribution to global emissions a miniscule 0.16 percent, our government is deliberately making us all poorer for no good reason.
What’s worse is that the 0.16 estimate uses the overblown values for livestock emissions that Jacinda Ardern and James Shaw adopted to discredit farming. If the true value for methane was used, New Zealand’s emissions would barely register.
This week’s NZCPR Guest Commentator electricity systems engineer Bryan Leyland describes how net zero policies have undermined the resilience of New Zealand’s electricity system:
“The previous government’s ban on gas exploration has further limited energy availability, while the push for ‘net zero’ emissions has resulted in a lot of money being squandered on costly and unreliable alternatives.
“Transpower has already warned that the system may not be able to meet the demand on calm, cold winter nights for the next few years or even more.
“Unless effective action is taken, we are at risk of prolonged blackouts lasting days or even weeks in any year with low rainfall. The declining availability of gas will make the situation even worse.
“The belief that wind and solar power can provide cheap, reliable electricity is simply not true. Evidence from overseas shows that increasing the amount of wind and solar power on a system increases the power price.
“More and more countries are actively considering abandoning net zero policies. We should do the same. Continuing with Net Zero policies will inevitably give us an unreliable and expensive supply.”
As Bryan says, all around the world questions over net zero policies are intensifying. It’s time to bring some common sense into this debate.
Extremists like Generation Zero and their promoters within the left-wing media, should be ignored. The Coalition needs to come clean and admit their zero carbon policies are damaging the economy and must be abandoned. Not to do so is unconscionable – New Zealanders would be condemned to falling living standards for no good reason.
The age-old argument that we need to uphold our green credentials in a discerning marketplace, no longer holds water, when our major trading partners including China, the US, and India, have all turned their backs on the UN’s climate agenda.
It is time the Coalition put the interests of New Zealand first by abandoning net-zero policies in order to focus on economic growth.
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THIS WEEK’S POLL ASKS:
*Is it time to abandon net-zero policies to focus on economic growth?
*Poll comments are posted below.
*All NZCPR poll results can be seen in the Archive.
THIS WEEK’S POLL COMMENTS
| The ridiculous David Lange anti-nuclear stance should have died when he did. It is time for New Zealand to move into 21st century energy policies. | Monica |
| We need to withdraw from the pris accord now as well | Adrian |
| Economic growth is top priority until further notice | MARY |
| Net zero is moronic bs in the extreme. Net zero is a gigantic con by the lowlifes trying to destroy western civilization so they can control the entire world themselves for themselves. | richard |
| This is the biggest scam ever inflicted on mankind! | Warren |
| Al Gore needed another stream of income after he lost the 2002 US Presidental election to George W. Bush, so he just made up all this global warming stuff. In 2006, I watched him trying to explain this to Oprah Winfrey on TV. It was so fantastical I went to sleep. | Monica |
| Just do it asap. Luxon needs to pull his head out of the sand. We might lose a little bit of trade and credibility but that will disappear very quickly when the rest of the world start to realize what a sham this net zero is. The a ount of polution that NZ produces is minuscule. Luxon is getting bad advice from someone again. If there is any backlash for pulling out just counter it by saying another country less efficient in producing food will take its place.Also the Paris agreement says food production must not be affected. Grow some balls and do it. | Peter |
| Well overdue! | Allan |
| yes now | stan |
| Yes, we have more pressing issues to worry about such as healthcare, education, jobs, cost of living etc. | Kelly |
| Immediately. But Luxon is too busy being woke to understand common sense. doesnt help that ACT and NZfirst are incapable of influencing national. | Sam |
| climate change agenda’s are a big scam, we need out now | NIGEL |
| Absolutely! Now that it is coming down to the wire – do we persist with an unachieveable policy based on a global hoax, or do we get realistic and opt for a sensible future? | Juliet |
| No Brainer | Janet |
| This government many of us voted in to rid our beautiful country of the ridiculous DEI have again let us down. I truly fear for the future of New Zealand. Christopher Luxon has turned out to be too weak to get any woke agendas stopped. | Heather |
| The trick is to pick the right time. What is an accurate estimate of the plunder of New Zealand’s finances at net-zero verses what is the financial loss to our balance of international trade if we pull out too soon? We need to be smart as to how we handle this. I think we should wait a little while. It probably will all collapse in heap anyway. It’s a concept based upon hysteria and unproven science and as such should melt away on it’s own accord. Most of the world’s human population is trying to exist in desperate situations and doesn’t have the luxury of caring about this subject and couldn’t give a rats backside one way or the other. The bother is, that we as a nation haven’t got a good record as to coming through with the smarts. | Garry |
| If the world reaches Net Zero we will all be dead. The planet cannot survive without CO2 have the idiots not worked that out yet? | Frank Donald |
| Or it will be too late!! | caroline |
| Net zero policies were always nonsense. | Sue |
| Absolutely, and we should be facing future needs by building the latest hi-tech nuclear power plant to generate electricity. Near the bank of the Waikato to the SW of Tuakau would be ideal so that reticulation to Auckland, the Waikato and BOP would be straight forward. | Alan |
| Most definitely | John |
| Whats wrong with Chris Luxon that he cant see the futility of the Paris agreement. He is no better than Adhern. I have been a National supporter from way back but I will be looking seriously at he coalition partners come next election. | Richard |
| National has bought into the b.s. – afraid to look “bad” compered with other similar democracies. | Phil |
| It’s just incredible that so many can’t see the stupidity in pursuing the net zero policy. | John |
| Abandon net zero. | Liz |
| We all need to get the govt to stop Nga Tahu owning all the water in the south island through our crooked judges. If they get ownership all New Zealaders will be paying even more for power once these greedy vermon charge us for their water to generate our power. Our future looks bleak unless you are maori at the top of their tribes. The backlash must begin now. | Kevan |
| Net-zero policies were always unrealistic and illogical. | Rod |
| NZers lack leadership. | Bruce |
| Absolutely! The coalition should be bold and decisive. The cheapest possible energy as a matter of national urgency. Luxon is Mr Timid. He is not a leader. He should resign. | Graham |
| Net zero not reasonable however both care for our environment and considered economic growth have a role to play. It’s a balance req’d. | Christina |
| Definitely | Moyra |
| The world, including NZ has been scammed and lied to on so many matters in the past 7 or 8 years (even longer), it must stop. | Sue |
| I keep saying YES it I see no disturbance in the governing ministers. What else can I do to gain their serious attention?? | Robin |
| Absolutely, I think the world is starting to wake up to this scam, it’s about time New Zealand did. People need to expand their knowledge of what drives climate instead of listening to the doomsayers who have made the most outrageous claims designed to scare those that want to believe them. The only thing that will be net zero if this ludicrous policy goes ahead will be the economy. | Rob |
| Long past time! | Albert |
| Not only is it time, it’s well past time! | Roger |
| The whole climate change alarmism fever has always been a total farce, set up by the WEF to redistribute wealth evenly around the poorer nations of the world. History tells us that when these nations become even slightly prosperous, they buy arms and go to war. | John |
| The is another reason Luxon should be replaced and the Climate Change Commission scraped. | Chuck |
| Anyone with half a brain would tell you we need to get out of such a corrupt organisation! Ardern and Shaw who put us on this path combined have no brains! We all know the puppet Ardern had only one goal and that was to destroy this country, you’d only need half a brain to see that! The puppet government we still have that don’t have a brain between the lot of them and are still following her goal to destruction! This country is a laughing stock! | peter |
| Its barked like a dog since inception. | terry |
| Net zero and climate change are a hoax and a money making scam. Where does the money go? To whom? Who is in charge? | Elizabeth |
| New Zealand Needs to seriously look at Withdraw now from Paris Agreement | leo |
| It was time to focus on economic growth years ago & it has only got worse. The stance on achieving net-zero is seriously flawed & undermining our ability to develop a strong, resilient economy. | Vern |
| Well past time. Net zero is aglobal hairbrain clown world wokeism idea, needs to be thrown out, GLOBAL CLOWN WORLD CAPITALISM… | David |
| It has been obvious for years, Chasing the ridiculous are politics taken to extreme to extract more revenue from people who are poor | Ian |
| The sooner the better | Jason |
| The damage done to the NZ economy by the policies of the previous leader, Ardern, will take a long time to repair. We need to start right now and this is good place to do it. | Paloma |
| Our emissions are already low, and the target Zero, is a ridiculous dream that will cripple the country for no good reason. Have our politicians lost their minds….. | Peter |
| A no brainer. | Les |
| It’s so blindingly obvious yet our national govt politicians seem to be completely blinkered. | boud |
| Yes – it definitely is time. | Carol |
| Essential to do so. | Steve |
| Luxon, for God’s sake man, read the room and do what your (former) supporters are screaming for regarding carbon emission myths and the Maorification of NZ & its legal system. | Creed |
| net zero is a fool’s dream | paul |
| The Coalition need to get us out of the Paris Agreement, WHO and the WEF . We need growth in the economy and meat, dairy and food producers being allowed to do what they do best . This would help NZ to become self sufficient. | Chris |
| And sooner the better. | Mark |
| This, and failing to address the ToW issues are the most glaring examples of the sheer lunacy of the current government. I presume that many MPs privately disagree but dare not raise their heads above the pulpit and speak out. Shows how gutless they are sadly. | Alan |
| Yes, yes, yes!!!!!!!!!! How long must this madness persist? Many NZers, if not most NZers have known The Green Agenda, Agenda 2021/2030 and Net Zero were all nonsense for years, right from the start in fact. But, we couldn’t get a hearing, we weren’t consulted. We have been walked over. It’s all been a carefully crafted evil, nauseatingly wicked Godless, brainwashing lying hoax of a plan taken up by mostly well educated fools!!!! I now despise our education system and universities.No one actually thinks anymore. | Brian |
| 100% it is!!! | |
| Completely abandon all climate-based policies. Resilience in the face of change is still required, but the carbon economy is a burden that we cannot afford and is simply not required by anyone. CO2 is good for the planet. Not bad! | Mark |
| we can’t afford it | Paul |
| Our emissions are a pimple on a pimple on a pimple compared to the large nations like China, Russia, India and the USA. | Ian |
| Net zero is sheer lunacy. Carbon farming should be banned as the real science does not support it | Ted |
| Well overdue. Get rid of this ideology that was flawed from the beginning | Angela |
| Net zero will bankrupt us while the major polluters laugh at us ! Wonderful !!! | George |
| Why be the only country in step? NZ’s emissions are so small that any reduction will make little or no difference to the overall emission total. Why are we trying to be the only country in step? . | Tony |
| Without question!! | Caren |
| Let the scientist that are not employed by the net zero mob tell the truth about CO2, CO2 is our friend it is about time the truth came out. until it does it is the elephant in the room. If only we could find politicians with a backbone | Barras |
| Ther is absolutely no evidence to prove that lowering CO2 emissions (man Made) will have any effect on Climate within the next 5 years or indeed ever. | Gary |
| Net zero will not work. We need to get rid of this communist type thinking. | Kent |
| Absolutely. It should have been done already but we have a weak, gutless prime minister at the helm! | William |
| Get on with it. | Tim |
| Net Zero comes from Al Gore and his destructive lies about our wonderful and resilient World and its climate | Bruce |
| Should never signed | Ewen |
| New Zealand is going down the gurgler because we have become the world champions of incompetence. Too many times we faulter at the last hurdle. We cannot it seems, push the right button at the right time, to grab success from the grip of failure. For this topic it’s the icing on the cake that melts away from our incompetent hollow members of our freely elected governing coalition that once again cannot convert the try? Of course we should be well away from the Paris fiasco. We need to train the police in conjunction with the army and to train up our national negotiators to rebut and to resist the nonsense that will be the inevitable. | Geoff |
| End the climate scam hoax. | John |
| Solar and wind is what comes out of the beehive wokeis like the greens and mori party with labour being led by adern and her septic friends in the usa. instead of buying crap loaded coal from indonesia get the coal mines on the west coast working again for this country which are the cleanest burning coal in the world and will give lots of employment, but for this to work get rid of luxon asap. | Richard |
| Immediately | SHERYL |
| Jacinda Ardern’s “captain’s call’ of 2018, in pursuance of net-zero policies, was arguably unconstitutional then, and is economically suicidal for NZ now. With the major countries of the world (eg USA, China, India, Russia) having either jettisoned or ignored the Paris Agreement, it is illogical that a small nation like NZ should remain an adherent – at the cost of its economy. It’s time to abandon this ill-fated charade. | Andrew |
| it needs to stop asap,it is ruining our beautiful country, | dianne |
| It is the ONLY policy that makes sense so as to keep our living standards | Ian |
| definitely…. the sooner the better | Sue |
| Net Zero is not only unwise, but also impossible in the absolute. AGW is a fraud. But no one dares to publish the truth. | John |
| What good are we doing by following a failing system? | Denis |
| Its a ridiculous and costly fantasy that any one with a brain knows. | Murray |
| NZ faces economic collapse unless we withdraw from this Paris farce. | Derek |
| Greatest hoax ever. Pi55ed away a generation of wealth. | Andrew |
| The net zero policies are an absolute waste of time, effort & money. New Zealand needs to prioritise what is best for our country. | David |
| We have lots of coal why are we importing it. use it to make POWER (electricity) | Chris |
| Always was an idiots dream | Ray |
| Has been for years, but our not very bright Political Team cannot work it out. And to boot Luxon and Watts are making it worse for NZ. | Noel |
| Let common sense prevail over green ideology | Wietske |
| NET- zero imposable | Noel |
| over due to get out John Key should neverr had never signed NZ for it in first place. | Rex |
| The net zero policy is utter madness. | Jim |
| The time to abandon this policies was yesterday. If we don’t abandon them today, we’ll not survive. | Lyudmila |
| Absolutely | Bruce |
| Never was going to work when biggest polluters would have nothing to do with joining!!! | Julz |
| It’s about time that ALL members in parliament were given a harsh reminder as to who is paying their wages, most of this claptrap is pseudo-science, to line the pockets of the so-called scientist. who are giving out rubbish science and giving the genuine scientists a bad name. Get rid of them. | Merryl |
| I’ve been around since 1941 and have lived through many doom and gloom prediction’s by so called climate experts, not one of which has come to pass. The so called climate change prediction’s has caused nothing but embarrassment for the so called experts. Meanwhile these clowns are driving this country into bankruptcy with their wind farms and solar panels. | Brian |
| We are on a path to disaster. | Geoff |
| The Climate Commission in NZ does nor have a single qualified for the job scientist. The nearest I saw was a lady who worked for Al Gore – His prophetic advice as to what might happen are so failed that they absolutely discredit him.. | Maurice |
| Also revoke the ban on oil and gas exploration | Terry |
| there has been sufficient evidence for NZ to have never joined in the first place it was pushed on us by left wing fanatics | Stanley |
| Gone by lunchtime | Evan |
| An intelligent analysis of all global environmental initiatives, show them to be designed for global governance. Thus, real environmental issues at a national and local level are not addressed. | Brian |
| Yes. While we must be mindful of using the planet’s resources carefully, we must nt do that to the exclusion of all else. NZ should not have renewed the Paris agreement as this is unsustainable, or even subscribed to it in the first place, as China, India and Russia are not doing their – large – bit. Our tiny bit is a drop in a bucket, and to beggar the country for that seems silly. | Sheila |
| The sooner the better. Net Zero should never have been adopted in the first place. | Lenice |
| luxon needs to listen and withdraw from the Paris Accord……NOW | Peter |
| Please can this Government see the damage that this ridiculous climate fiasco has to come to an end. Nobody can afford to carry on with this nightmare. When I voted for this government. I have all this garbage would be removed instead of being increased..I%u2019m one who really approves the wording of Shane Jones at last somebody with common Sence . | Michael Andrew . |
| nz first if we dont put nz first they will use us to suit them | adrian |
| luxon will NEVER do ANYTHING EMAIL WINSTON & ALL NZ FIRST MP,s they seem to care about NZEALANDERS. | Cindy |
| Obviously! Except to the undiscerning Politicians… | M |
| Having traveled to India and china etc many other countries in the world there is no way that they will ever reach net zero in even my grand childrens lifetime. This is just a hoax that is already killing our businesses. We need to stand up and do our own thing for the good of New Zealand. | Margaret |
| ABSOLUTELY!! But what would it take for Luxon to take the initiative?? Lets have a referendum so the people ,can decide!! | Ron |
| It was a mistake. | Tony |
| Always was a con job and now we are paying dearly for it.. Poor Politics. | Peter & Christina |
| Start taking cognizance of what is happening in the rest of the world with the dramatic swing against ideology driven governance that can no longer be afforded. Live in the practicalities of the real world. | Dane |
| A total waste of money we have not got in our economy. | John |
| Yes, end net zero. Winstone Pulp, Marsden Refinery, and whatever are regrettable losses. Solar and wind farms are doubtful gains. Wholesale conversion from farming to forestry is tragic. Unfortunately ideologies run before they can walk. There are lessons to be learnt from Germany, UK and elsewhere. Nuclear free was a mistake. | Peter |
| Of course it’s time to ditch it. What a red herring and joke it’s been. Has sucked in the young and the greens. | Simon |
| Time to abandon GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE LIES, AND TIME TO FOCUS ON PEOPLES PRODUCTIVITY. CLIMATE CHANGE NET ZERO, IS NWO/UN GLOBAL CAPITALIST THEFT, AND LIKE COVID IS A GIANT LIE!! IT HAS TO GO. | David |
| Yes absolutely, we need to get New Zealand back on its feet and never never let a Labour/Greens/Maori party anywhere near the helm again | Claire |
| It’s ideology supported by lies | William |
| impossible to understand why we ever signed up to it, in the first palce. | Giles |
| Wake up luxon | Chris |
| it is absolutely long past time we abandon net-zero and focus on economic growth. The idea that we think weather is some kind of climate crisis when it has been changing since the very creation of the earth and that humans are the cause when in fact we and our activities are so insignificant that they are barely measurable. and we focus on that to the detriment to our progress and very livelihoods and our survival as a species is idiotic in the least. | Brenda |
| Our grandchildren do not want a return to the stone age, I’m sure! | Aj |
| Total madness..! We need Productivity,not NET ZERO!! who puts these HAIR BRAINED stupid ideas, in these clowns heads? and who elects them? which is more dangerous!! | David |
| The amount of money needed even to sustain the solar/wind experiment will seriously damage the economy further | Hilary |
| Get rid of thei climate change lie once and for all. Lock Jacinda Arden in prison for treason, now, for her gross disservice to New Zealanders. | Felix |
| It has been said over and over, if we meet these goals and reduce production another nation with less conscience will produce it and sell it back to us. | Peter |
| A myth that it is doable without sending NZ into 3 rd world. Luxon lacks courage | Graham |
| It is a trillion dollar a year Wall Street racket. | Susan |
| Surely our Govt is not so blind it cannot see that winter is not a fun time. They need to come up with better plans | Barbara |
| Net-zero still on well on track as related to the collective cognitive ability of the modern version of the political left. | Tony |
| Net Zero is sticking our heads in the sand. Lets get real. | Bruce |
| No doubt and Luxon MUST LISTEN to REASON! | Robbie |
| We cannot understand why it is taking so long for Chris Luxon to address these ingrained woke issues in our societty before anything else. Surely reforming the previous years of Labours evil indoctrination by stealth should take precedence. | Karen |
| It is already far overdue. The whole climate change is a hoax. Sea levels are the lowest since many years. | peter |
| Net-zero is based on UN discredited data. If the corrected data was used NZ would likely be net-zero already. | Kevin |
| Carbon emissions are not a problem. We have been told lies. Total trees and plants sequester carbon in NZ. There is not a problem with excess carbon or methane. | Tony |
| ASAP | Graeme |
| Past time | Warwick |
| It is time to allow the adults to run the country, simply because the children doing it currently just haven’t a clue. | fred |
| Yes! We need to keep the lights on and the heaters working. Small Modular Nuclear Plants are the answer to clean reliable, affordable energy. | Mark |
| Long overdue | Peter |
| ASAP! | Brenda |
| Bryan is correct | John |
| Should never have been considered in the first place. The truth about net zero needs to be made public in a big way. | Glenn |
| It’s total nonsense based on faulty modelling, and needs to be abandoned | Gaye |
| Absolutely | Yvonne |
| Should have happened ten years ago. | Tim |
| The sooner the better | Rob |
| Time to pay off our debt, the interest is just on $11. Billion put the money into more reproductive activities’ hospitals, schools Build Nuclear generation plant | Neville |
| long over due | Gerhard |
| We are being manipulated in so many ways and it is time we stood up and thought for ourselves. The U.S has finally woken up to this and we would do well to heed what they are doing under the leadership of President Trump. WE blindly followed their influence while they were under the influence of corrupt government, but will we follow their lead and now rid ourselves of the corruption which has become so evident and stems from New World Order interests? | Harvey |
| When isn’t it time to pull the rug on blithering idiot zealots? When there’s no more economy for them to wreck? | mike |
| Considering that temperatures have not risen since the invention of thermometers 100 years prior to the industrial revolution it is a hoax. We are recovering from a mini ice age so the cooling line has risen making the average higher than 200 years ago. Abandon the woke idea! | Anna |
| Farce from day 1 of the “agreement”! | Michael |
| Its not a case of Abandon any good thing, these disastrous policies should never have been put in place in the beginning,, this is simply a corrective move to restore proper order. However these corrections, the reversal of DEI, the reversal of the RMA do not go far enough and will have limited results. What is needed is for the Reversal Bill to have a omnibus inclusion to Restore the Powers of the Minister to govern, to appoint and to fire for inadequate performance. restore to the Minister in charge the power to be effective in management. And Like Trump we could fire a few of the grossly overpaid seat warmers and committee attendees making a leaner more effective Government. | Richard |
| Why would you continue to shoot yourself in foot when the big polluters have opted out of Paris Accord? | Donald |
| This is superstitious nonsense chasing mirages in the intellectual desert of the Marxist morons of the left. Climate is a Trojan horse for communists to destroy our economy and take over and indeed in all the Western World. | John |
| Now! | Gary |
| Do what we can afford in the areas we agree to for NZ | Mike |
| Our contribution is absolutely minimal and wasted due to the larger Industrial countries ignoring the Agreement | Peter |
| 20 years too late | Errol |
| ABSOLUTELY | DICK |
| its time tot ake back our country. Waste must be stopped. | john |
| You would think the idiots running this country would realize we can’t get to net-zero. | Lawrence |
| economic growth and free enterprise will foster improved technology and improved efficiency regarding the production & use of energy.central planning and big government will not. | Bruce |
| bring NZ into the ‘Real world’ AWAY FROM BS statistics. And maybe start thinking with your head …. geez | carol |
| Always look at the cheapest option with best payback. | Paul |
| Absolutely !!!! Check “real” climate scientists findings and you will see how we are being lied to. | Alan |
| Constraint leeds to innovation.. ideas, solutions. “neccessity is the mother of invention”. Regenerative farming, Bio-char, scattered trees in paddocks, organic farming methods, different plants ilike clover and annual flowers in the rye grass, breeding natuyrally from your best animals and grasses etc etc will make farmers more productive, less stressed, less exposed to toxic pesticides, more likely to enjoy being a farmer. They will not do this if more water and air pollution is allowed, if overstocking leads to beasts in mud, and the Amozon etc natural forrests destroyed for oil palm kernel and soy plantations. Surely there are “Blue” supporters who care for the health of our NZ and planet | Rochelle |
| Should of gone long, long ago. Useless idiots controlled my the UN and like are undermining our way of life. | Chris |
| It’s all a political hoax we must pull out of it | Clive |
| Waste of our tax money, use it for Health. | Rod |
| Most definitely | Ken |
| Its all a leftist agenda to impose central control and socialist rule. The sheeple just follow blindly without even thinking. The real danger is they will be too late to wake up to the reality. | Frank |
| Absolutly,it should never have been agreed to in the first place by ardern.What a confused dip stick she has been,a total embarassment to nz. | galem |
| Net zero policies were always an unrealistic expectation. It assumes the world can agree and everyone will cooperate and any financial considerations are of no importance. In any developed country financial considerations are paramount. There is no compulsion required to agree to net zero and New Zealand needs to consider the financial considerations first. New Zealand cannot afford to take this step. We need to follow the decisions of the financial giants of this world. | terrence |
| Absolutely> today is almost too late. | Chris |
| It’s time to pull our heads out of the sand | John |
| What have we gained with the current policy (& will we anyway effect Global Climate!!) | michael |
| Man made climate change is a farce,you would have to be an absolute idiot not to be able to figure that out!!! | Gavin |
| When will this govt DO SOMETHING ? Power blackouts coming this winter. Low lake levels, no coal ( imported ) Low on natural gas and wind and sun not exactly reliable especially on cool clear windless nights. Clever greenies NOT. | allan |
| MOST, MOST, MOST definitely a HUGE YESSS. Stop all this absolute bullshit that the useless Commo Jacinda has poured us into. | Brian |
| economic growth means all benefit those who deny such are not only fools but complete fools!! | Karen |
| Most definitely. The whole Paris Agreement and Net Zero are a totalitarian artifice and a mortal threat to our way of life. CO2 does not drive the climate, climate catastrophism is an insane anti-science millenarian movement. | Trevor |
| So many scientists and climate experts are speaking out to say climate change is a hoax. Net zero is destroying the country, lets have some sense and stop listening to the green loonies. | Fred |
| Yes, with obvious caveats of not blindly polluting the air, water and soil | Peter |
| Ridiculous waste of money. | steph |
| Why are bad political decisions not being punished with trials and lock ups | Anthony |
| PARIS ACCORD IS NOT WORKING. BE LIKE USA, LEAVE | David |
| net zero not worthy of comment | Colin |
| Time to kick the whole man-made climate change hoax for touch once and for all. Al Gore and Ardern colluding says enough for any thinking person to know it is simply political motivation driving the rhetoric. | Mike |
| It is also time to abandon and ignore the chattering of the lefty, green fools in Parliament. | Richard |
| The sooner the better otherwise we are destined for 3rd World Status. | Peter |
| Time to scrap all that crap. Luxon needs to grow a pair, show some leadership and ditch all the green woke rubbish | Laurie |
| Absolutely, otherwise this country will become 3rd world. Its already being viewed as a basket-case given that we can’t even approve a solar farm in North Canterbury and a government that seems hell bent on pushing the climate change agenda. | Lawrie |
| not just yes, but hell yes | chris howard |
| Abandon all net-zero policies. | Ann |
| Now. | Iain |
| NZ has been ignoring overseas attitudes and rejection of Woke Green policy stupidity, and Luxon meandering about with refusal to face reality, and NZ continues to suffer his ineptitude. | Rex |
| Adern and Shaw should be tried for treason. But Watts appears to also be a complete imbecile, I cannot comprehend how seemingly intelligent adults cannot see the fraudulent climate change industry ! | Tony |
| This net zero crap is crippling our economy, aside from being totally unrealistic. We should abandon this bulls**t now. How are the ‘climate change’ nutters going to feel when blackouts start happening? Pollution is a far bigger problem, something that can/should be concentrated on. | Andrew |
| When will this government, our so called leader leader get some common sense and put nz’ers first | Noeline |
| Get on with it | Clyde |
| Yes. It’s a no brainer. | Ronnie |
| The madness MUST stop | mike |
| The whole idea of net-zero is delusional. Ardern should never step foot in this country again | Anne |
| Yes, it is a waste of time and money. Focus on real issues. | Kim |
| People who believe CO2 is an evil gas, should take lessons on photosynthesis. Crazy to try to reduce/eliminate a gas that’s part of the key to all life on the planet! | Noel |
| We are such small emitters in the world that it is stupidity on the Govt to keep pursuing the Paris agreement. Why reck our economy when the worst polluters are not accountable. | Peter |
| Al Gore’s discredited link between historic GHG emissions and global warming (chicken & egg comparison) AND the UN acceptance that that the factors initially claimed and still accepted by our Govt to determine emission level is wrong AND the top reasons that contribute to GHG are always human creation top reasons and ignores all the natural reasons (sea evaporation volcanoes etc) that far outweigh human influences. The globe is heating, but not within our control other than massive depopulation. | Brian |
| This lunacy needs to urgently end | Phil |
| Most definitely. Zero Carbon to be eliminated is saying Humans need to be eliminated because we CAN NOT survive without Carbon !! No Plants No People !! | Geoff |
| Absolutely withdraw | Elizabeth |
| Surely common sense must prevail soon . | Sonia |
| Of course we should THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY. All weather relates events even the recent so called heat wave in Hamilton are always within historical norms. Some very basic research will inform all of us better that the MSM. | Cookie |
| I see the broader ‘net zero’ policies are just another political ploy to derive more control and taxation from the complying industries; while governments ‘haven’t yet ‘seen’ that basically the result is less general (except rural) productivity through resulting negative attitudes as the heavy weights ‘work the system’ to their own advantage! The whole climate change narrative, to me, seems just another massive political distraction while other unsavory dictatorial impositions are imposed to distract society! How come New Zealand is in such a fiscal mess when many well managed businesses are successfully viable while New Zealand’s government continues to tighten the purse – reducing employment, health services, education results and social cohesion ! To me, this government is displaying disgraceful management mandating many to stay off work while still offering little general incentivized fiscal or social leadership NOR uniting this divided country! | Stuart |
| OF COURSE! | Bruce |
| After nearly 18 months in power the National Party leadership of the Coalition still doesn’t have the courage or leadership qualities to make the inevitable decision to withdraw from the now totally defunct Paris Agreement. Even blind-Freddy can see that this dream has gone forever. | Jim |
| Of course. As my teacher once said “If you don’t understand it because its too complicated then don’t adopt it.” | Michael |
| Always was a mad idea.The epitome of virtue signalling. | Barry |
| Also time to leave the Paris agreement. | helen |
| The world is still coming out of an ice age. Net zero should be abandoned and buried with all the other left wing policies | Keith |
| Goes without saying doesn’t it ???? | Rainey |
| Without delay! You keep asking similar questions to which the over all answer has been repeated many times! Who is not getting the message here, nor at least reading the room ? Take note Mr P.M. | Robyn |
| YES overdue to end this virtue signaling madness of a problem that does not exist and a solution that cannot be delivered. | Gerard |
| Climate change/global warming/carbon taxes etc are all a load of total bullshit. Al Gore sold his accumulated carbon credits for $199mill & bailed out of the scene!!! That says all that needs to be said about this scam!!! TOTAL LOAD OF CRAP!!! | Honest Dave |
| Overdue in fact | Rhys |
| ASAP | Geoffrey |
| Use our own coal reserves and build another Huntly-sized thermal power station close to Auckland, and curtail further development of renewable power sources (wind turbines and solar arrays). | Warren |
| Net Zero is quite mad. | Graham |
| Net zero is and was a complete unrealistic goal. To matters worse, no matter what NZ does it not going to make the slightest difference to the planet with major pollutant nations not even considering a similar policy. We are sacrificing growth to our economy and additional burgeoning costs in an effort to achieve the unachievable. The savings could be better utilised at home. It’s about time the current government applied some common sense to this issue. | chris |
| A cost > benefit analysis would make any decision on this matter totally conclusive, particularly in the abscence of any verifiable empirical data ???? | Brian |
| We need to get back to reality and not driven by left wing ideological misinformation | Phil |
| Drain the Well. Swamp. Would Paris agree with that? | Henk |
| no such thing as global warming | Linda |
| Yes common sense should prevail. If we want a reasonable standard of living. Down with a lot of these Woke policies | Frank |
| Act and NZ First have to put enormous pressure on Luxon and the National Party. This Paris,” discord”, doomsday scheme has to be stopped with all means. NZ has to get out of this mess or we will be doomed economically in no time. We have no time to waste. | Michael |
| It is nothing but a Ponzi scheme and we here are the suckers thanks to Shaw Ardern and even this current Government so ditch the scheme ounce and for all and focus on economic growth. | Ken |
| Net Zero, like Predator Free, is a fantasy of idealism that cannot possibly be reasonably achieved with the resources available to NZ | John |
| Abso-bloody-lutely! | mark |
| voters need a choice – at the moment both parties have the same silly net zero policies | rob |
| I have a degree in environmental studies from the University of California. In my view, the “science” used to justify Net Zero policies has no basis. It is pure fantasy. | Dan |
| absolutely abandon this ridiculous policy. | jeannette |
| The New Zealand landmass and population are but a pimple on the earths surface. How any net zero policy would make any difference in the big picture is beyond my comprehension. That we should pay the price for these policies and suffer economic hardship is irresponsible. | I E M |
| The world has spent $5 trillion on so called renewables in the last twenty years to reduce hydrocarbons by a lousy 2%. Man made zero carbons by 2050 – WHAT A JOKE!!!! | David |
| Absolutely! This UN/Paris Agreement driven Policy is one of the world’s biggest scams. Dump it, and NOW! | Heather |
| Why should NZ pauper itself when its emissions are barely noticeable compared to global emissions (0.09%). It’s utter madness. In any event CO2 which is essential for plant life is only 0.04% of the atmosphere and has absolutely no affect on temperature. | Steve |
| It is essential ti acceot that this ridiculous notion on climate change is benefitting NO-ONE | Sylvia |
| A strong focus on economic growth is the only practical way that NZ can avoid further slippage into poverty and worse than 3rd World status. | Bruce |
| Should have been abandoned,long ago | Gail |
| No climate emergency All a Trojan horse for the green dollar and bogus new business while citizens pay thru the nose financially and economically. Nonsense has to stop. Until other culprits are specifically countries whom pollute their waterways oceans and streets is a far more concerning matter than CO 2. Until countries whose CO2 are extremely high are brought down to acceptable levels then counties like nz dint have to be the sacrificial lambs. | Angela |
| TODAY IF POSSIBLEL! The fact that Ardern introduced it would indicate that it is one of her Communist-based fallacies! | Sylvia |
| Net zero was always a stupid idea. The very suggestion that cows are the problem is the most insane claim of all climate change stupid ideas. Surely even the most naive an gullible believer, must have had their suspicions raised when Al Gore’s proclamation that the ice caps would have melted by 2020 and the sea level would have risen by 30 meters. All totally speculative propaganda supported by the cancerous tentacles of the left, designed to destroy democratic countries economies. | dianna |
| immediately, it is all a Climate Con! | Mark |
| It is time for sensible decisions. New Zealand needs first and foremost to look after itself, | Pam |
| Absolutely necessary and urgent | John and Penelope |
| It is now long past time to act sensibly and reject the idealistic and simplistic yet unsustainable notion of Net Zero. The longer political leaders dither, the higher the cost. | Peter |
| Otherwise, the current policy will ruin the country as we know it | Mike |
| Focus on the economy. This National Party needs to wake up. Commonsen must kick in. | Chris |
| Our Govt. should listen and take advice from Bryan Leyland. He is the most experienced person in NZ. | Annette |
| if we dont it wont be long before we will be unable to buy a bottle of water to survive | Les W |
| Well past time! Net zero was a con-job from the very beginning and is now just a financial time bomb that will damage our economy more than it already has. | Roger |
| Yes abandon now or send NZ broke | Richard |
| Minister Shaw bears some responsibility for this situation we find ourselves in, and where is he? Cut and run. Well, time for NZ to do the same re the Paris Accord. We simply cannot afford to play games with this – if our economy tanks we won%u2019t have the luxury of virtue signalling to anyone. | Neil |
| We have plenty of coal in NZ and coal fired power stations which capture the carbon should be built. Wind and solar generation is not efficient with another big solar generation farm going broke in Australia. Luxflake is pushing for solar farms to be built using Tax payer money. If they are so good let the private sector do it | neil |
| But we have a PM who is enslaved to the global elitists. We need to have sensible politicians. Get rid of Luxon and Watts. | Jenny |
| Not only is it time but our politicians should never have signed up in the first place with out the approval of the public via referendum. The problem is we are offered a bunch of arrogant, ignorant, dimwits for election to parliament. All the fuss made about our markets worrying about our adherance to the Paris Accord is just so much b/s. Our customers basically want a good product at the right price! | alan |
| It is a hoax | Kevin Barnes |
| Let’s be responsible as a people who really care about New Zealand | Dominique Greenslade |
| The whole policy has been driven by inviduals for personal gain! Read Jacinda Ardern!!! | Paul |
| Bloody oath. We should never gone down that rabbit hole. Lets get out of the Paris Accord while we are at it. | pdm |
| the sooner the better | Les W |
| Ideology is not reality!!! | Ray |
| overdue | Leon |
| Ardern should be charged with espionage. NZ just stood by and watched it happen. cowards. | John |
| We need to take a balanced approach. Whilst the major players have self interest I do not believe we should totally go down there track as sooner or very soon climate change will become a major issue world wide | Alan |
| Absolutely – the numbers being used are being regularly discredited and it is time we stood up for ourselves. | Gerry |
| Yes the sooner the better befire it is too late. I do wonder how many of the so called GREENIES are driving EVs | Rod |
| economic self harm for ho gain is ideological madness | Rob |
| Open your eyes to reality | gordon |
| To do otherwise is to put NZ on a fool’s errand. | Ian |
| way past use by date | Graeme |
| I totally agree with the article, it is a massive con job and needs to be kicked for touch. When are our Politicians going to have the courage to make the right decisions, regardless of minority groups opinions. We should also be using our coal instead of importing it!!! | Alister |
| The sooner the better to hell with what Luxon thinks. | Rod |
| The financial focus should be implemented inside NZ, not squandered in overseas contributions. Just respect the people’s choice and do it. | DAVID |
| This is a no-brainer…you only have to look at the type of people who promote climate change policies…no commonsense | Owen |
| The whole system has been ‘flawed’ from the beginning. It is perpetuated by self interest lobby and business groups. | Kevin |
| The sooner the better. | john |
| Overdue I will say. Get on with Governing our Country. | William Clive |
| Long overdue | Peter |
| Your article is well written but I am troubled by the content. I believe climate change is a serious problem – ultimately the greatest challenge we face. I have a thorough understanding of the science of CC and it distrubs me when I hear politicians and industrialists refer to it as the ‘climate hoax’. It is certainly not a hoax. The problem is the world is giving up on mitigation. It is seen as being too economically damaging. I can understand this. It is easier to keep kicking the can down the road and avoid economic pain. I think this is very short sighted and we will eventually pay a high price for it. I do agree with you however that it is not worth stuffing NZs economy if the rest of the world is not complying. So I am torn. I believe the rest of the world is being irresponsible but NZ is going to be forced to join them and give up on mitigation. For NZ, there is a get out of jail card. That is nuclear energy and for the life of me I cannot understand why we are not exploring that option. | John Hyndman |
| Net zero policies cannot work, and were likely never going to work | Robbie |
| This is a no-brainer. If we can grow and become a wealthier nation, then we can’t invest in renewables in the future. | Glenda |
| Without a doubt and asap | Greg |
| We may as well all go down together | Evans |
| HELL YES. | Ian |
| Net-zero policies will cripple NZ and not make a blind bit of difference to the world’s climate change. We should pull out of the Paris Agreement. | Jennifer |
| If we continue down this pathway to Net Zero we will be broke as a country and all the societal issues plaguing NZ will roll into civil unrest- Time to use common sense and leave the Paris Climate agreement | john |
| For sure. What rubbish to continue down this flawed track of the Paris Agreement. | Jenny |
| The research has never been accurate (truthfu?) and the whole exercise has been useless for New Zealand | Terry |
| Absolutely. New Zealand simply cannot afford the cost of net zero policies overall. To do so will offset the benefits of any economic growth overall. | Don |
| This was always going to be a cuase of insignificant outcome. While some may have felt noble about any achievements made, the cost for an unmeasurable effect was always going to be unjustifiable. On the other hand if all the money was spent on mitigation, clearing rivers, shoring up sea walls etc, the effect could be seen and sure to be put to good use in the future. There is no point denying Climate, it is if we will ever be able to do anything about it is the question. The answer so far, is clearly no! | Steve |
| Of course it is how it was aloud to happen in the first place baffles me I thought we had sensible intelligent people running this country so how could they let this happen anyone with half a brain could see it for what is is a massive world wide scam and who gets the money???? | Peter |
| Absolutely. What idiotic thinking that tiny NZ should virtually bankrupt ourselves while the biggest economies, and many others are building coal-fired plants. Even if it were true, which it is not, that CO2 causes global warming, we couldn’t make an iota of difference. Rich, woke globalists are playing us for suckers! | Duncan |
| Zero emissions were never going to be achieved. Now the world’s biggest emission contributing countries have turned their backs on the Paris Acord the whole thing has become a no brainer. Get out of it now. | Wayne |
| You cant beat mother nature | jim |
| Carbon Zero is absolute nonsense | Michael |
| NOW! | Magog |
| Absolutely! The wind and solar generators will never provide a reliable and consistent source of power generation. Will our government have the gumption to abandon the disastrous net-zero policies which ae crippling our economy. Come on, Luxon and co. – stop vacillating and make a decision! | Laurence |
| A Have, that’s always been propaganda, | Tony |
| New Zealand’s ‘contribution’ to world climate change is so tiny we are NOT the country that needs to look at its output | Peter |
| 100% why is the only government brain cell not being used. Common sense please. | Gareth |
| We should never have subscribed to the Paris agreement in the first place just because it was part of the herd mentality. Futile objectives created to bring disorder to the world by energetic activists. It has to GO | Mike |
| We should also actively promote the installation of private solar installations with battery storage. Solar alone is not the solution. Follow Australia’s example- where solar production is massive due to government assistance. Surplus power generation should be fed back into the grid at realistic prices. Private producers should have access to the electricity trading market to maximize heir returns. This is possible in Australia. Come on NZ. Wake up. | Graeme |
| It’s mission impossible – get back to cheaper power and ditch the stone around NZ’s neck re 2050 compliance. What’s good for the goose must also be good for the gander. | John |
| It was flawed logic from the start | Ken |
| Unquestionably. It is past time to withdraw from / abandon the United Nations Paris Agreement on Climate Change . What is more it is also high time we gave more than just serious consideration to and committed to nuclear power generation of electricity. | Hugh |
| Withdrawing from the Paris agreement will not be the end of the world Being less than 0.16% responsibility for global emissions -using incorrect data from CH4g production -being advised that food producing Nations are exempt then it is self evident that we must not bank-rupt our Nation to achieve essentially zero responsibility for any climate change | Stan |
| It was time 20 years ago but unfortunately most of our MPs and our wacko Left-wing Public Service are wedded to this ruinous policy. Despite all the evidence that it doesn’t affect the climate one jot because CO2 is NOT a principal driver of climate change I’m afraid that NZ can’t see the truth staring it in the face and is determined to remain woke and go broke. | Derek |
| Net Zero is a total nonsense, as a country we have to get out of this ridiculous Paris accord. | James |
| Yes yes yes….. .and please hurry! Introduce a small nuclear generation plant in the north of NZ where power demand is high as transmitting power long distances is inefficient! Many countries do it. | Joe |
| Yes!! Abandon the myth because that is all it is. | David |
| Abandon ALL the idiot International agreements that are killing our country. | Bryan |
| It is rubbish fueled by fear to control. | Tash |
| It is high time that people realised what a massive confidence trick has been foisted on us under the title of “Global Warming”, Oops, I mean of course, “Climate Change”, now that it can’t be proved that the globe is actually warming. | TOBY |
| Years too late!! | Chris |
| My main fuel for extracting manuka and kanuka oil was waste oil, which I got for free, because of council rules re storage and emissions I am now burning diesel which has increased my costs by 100 fold, and yes my clients are still with me even though I have passed those costs over to them, the question is as diesel goes up will my clients continue to support me? | sven |
| It’s a scam. We need to not be a part of it. Like genetic engineering, it will destroy our country. | Grant |
| And call for an early election. The imbeciles in Wellington are incompetent and are only interested in their remuneration. | John |
| Absolutely, now is the best chance we’ve got. If we dither and god forbid but the lefties return in 2026 we’ll be back on the path to economic oblivion. | Geoff |
| Without a shadow of doubt, we must scrap this ruinous claptrap once and for all. It is absolutely treasonous for any government to pursue this radical agenda by crippling the country wholesale. Enough is enough, Luxon, Peters and Seymour all need to grow a backbone and get this done. | Neville |
| wE HAVE LISTENED TO THE GREENS AND LABOURFOR FAR TO LONG and time to get out of all the UN agencys | colin |
| If they were serious about climate change, they would be discussing geoengineering. | Robert |
| Absolutely, we should NEVER have joined in the first place. | diana |
| Why would a small country like New Zealand with a very low level of pollution even consider climate change when the largest polluters in the world do not. National Party have lost the plot. | Steve |
| None of the major players are partaking which means our proportion has gone up and means diddly squat and we can’t afford this new figure it’s dragging us down | Laurie |
| From day one it was not in NZ’s interest to bow the global spin of man-made immissions being responsible for the changing climate. As a sovereign country we need to do whatever is in our own interests and growth. | Hugh |
| Absolutely it’s past time to see them go, why are they still here! | Robin |
| We should never have allowed ourselves to be caught up in the woke agenda | Rod |
| For NZ to survive financially we need to cancel the Net-Zero madness,! The fact that National cannot see the writing on the wall in regards to Net-Zero continues to enforce the view they are not much better than the Labour/Green/Maori madness we’ve had to endure. If National cannot turn this around quickly, I can assure them they will not be returned to power in the next election. hopefully it will be a ATC lead government that has the fortitude to do what’s right for the country. | John |
| Economic prosperity should have been one of the coalition’s priorities, along with abandoning all the treaty scams. This country signed up under a National-led government. Now it is time for National to do the right thing. | Gavin |
| Very definitely YES!! | Murray |
| Way way overdue! Should never have occurred in the first place – oil and gas are gifts to us from the creator of the natural world. | Jan |
| We need to return to a life of reality, rather than flounder in one that is being dictated to by the global warming alarmists and their ideologically conforming computer models. | Len |
| Long past the time of abandoning this economic disaster nonesdnse | Hylton |
| Of course it is “Yes” – however, it will never come to pass due to Mr Luxon advocating that the “Science is Proven” for Global Warming……. | Steve |
| Fools and Idiots define the Human Race, always have and always will… Common Sense is somewhere blowing in the wind. | Chris |
| Arderns futile attempt to ‘lead’ our country New Zealand has been an expensive waste of millions of dollars. | Mark |
| It must happen before New Zealand becomes bankrupt. It is a foolhardy goal. | Graeme |
| PM Luxon has got it very wrong. NZ needs to withdraw from the Paris Agreement and support NZ products. Not beg to Nestle and others. | RICHard |
| Green think has been flawed for years | Collin |
| We can’t afford to run out of power | Gavin |
| Only Governments determined to punish their citizens are continuing to support this scam. | Grant |
| We as a country cannot afford to subject to the whims of nature to power our industries and growing population | tony |
| Why persevere with failure | Warren |
| we must get out | duncan |
| Yes! Why is Luxon standing firm while more and m or countries ar pulling out of this ridiculous money extortion scheme? Are we all so stupid and blind that we can’t see what a ratbag Luxon is? He is a WEF placed puppet and they, (Klaus Schwab) is instructing him in the ongoing destruction of NZ. He is standing in the way of progress in NZ with his non negotiable stance on the Net Zero issue, and also Seymour’s Treaty Bill where he won’t allow the bill to progress. We must get rid of him and NZers MUST appoint our next leader (Winston Peters) and not accept another ratbag from the WEF. Until then progress will remain stalled. Wake up NZ. | Carolyn |
| way past due. We cannot afford a fantasy | Phil |
| Trumpy might be a loose cannon but in this,I agree. How is spending billions of dollars saving the rest of the world with net zero,if the rest of the world doesn’t give a stuff about saving themselves, | Peter |
| The cost of net-zero is outrageous we do not nead it | Geoff |
| We should not have joined in the first place. All it has done is given free money to the filthy rich, paid by the poor. | Raymond |
| Global Warming was the biggest scam in the History of the World! They had to change the name to Climate Change in an attempt to sustain support. | Glyn |
| It is a huge cost to NZ that we cannot afford and will be offset by China by morning tea ? | john |
| Paris agreement is a way to one world govt – probably excluding china and Russia. | Chris |
| And it seems that our Government/s have steadfastly ignored the fact that the (rort) Paris agreement does NOT apply to food production. | Sandra |
| The UN -Paris agreement is a con and we must walk away from Net-Zero | Doug |
| BUY YOURSELF A PYRAMID MURIEL, THAT SHOULD SORT OUR POWER PROBLEMS OUT.. MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO THEY HAD A BETTER TECHNOLOGY, THAN THE IDIOTS IN POWER TODAY! | ROD |
| The Greens Globally have a lot to answer for. They should focus on real pollution | DOUGLAS |
| We cannot afford it!! | Graham |
| Definitely and without question. | David |
| Throwing away billions of tax payer money to achieve zero measurable benefit but rather to compromise energy supply and greening of the planet, is negligence. | Craig |
| net zero is an oxymoron and demonstrably impossible but pursued by zealots with no cognizance of cost and impact on the economy and lives but with a vested interest via personal investment in unworkable energy alternatives, funded by government subsidy ( taxpayer ) and/or ideology determined to destroy the industrial West. | Kerry |
| This is urgent! | Brian |
| Careful carbon management and venturing into new mrthods of energy production must be our goal but paying other non-compliant countries for failing to meet targets is economic suicide!! | David |
| Why has it take this long for people to wake up. There was plenty of scientific evidence out there contrring the Zero carbon scam | Peter |
| “Net zero” and anthropogenic climate change are scams | Peter |
| Absolutely….when Russia, China, India etc decide to make changes then perhaps we could look at it again. All other first world countries are making moves to get out of this ridiculous waste of tax payers money. | Richard |
| It constantly surprises me why the current Govt is so slow to reorientate the country away from Labour’s woke politics. | john |
| It has been a farce since day one. The ultimate Emperor%u2019s New Clothes story in real life. | James |
| Go!Go!Go! If only we could have a a government full of people with Shane Jones attitude. | Leonie |
| It was a waste of time from the outset. It a case of the woke left driving the world. | john |
| absolutly yes abandon NOW YOU idiots | bill |
| Obvious! | Bryan |
| As soon as possible. | Tony |
| Winston and Seymour are seeing through the Climate change hoax, why can’t our PM. | Paul |
| Come on, Mr Luxon – join the dots. You can’t claim to be a champion of economic growth in New Zealand while you are willfully killing off the cheap, reliable power supplies that will enable such growth. I suggest you appoint Maureen Pugh as head of your inner advisory team – she had the wisdom to challenge the so-called science behind the climate change scam! | Rodger |
| It’s time for we the people to “net-zero” our corporate government and its army of corporatists who masquerade as our democracy and rebuild a new system from the ground up that benefits we the people, and not the globalist corporate agenda. | neil |
| Yes. Stop penalising the one group of people who can help finance our way out of this horrendous debt Labour have put us in – our farming community | Carolyn |
| Absolutely! Net-zero should have been abandoned by the Coalition once they were elected to government. This scam has gone on for long enough! | Dianne |
| Economic growth should have always been the priority for the country. | Murray |
| Why is Luxon saying he will stick with Paris when other countries are bailing out. What is he afraid of? Why doesn’t he do the right thing for NZ? | Paul |
| NZ should never have signed up to the Paris Agreement. It was the National Party that did that. this is their opportunity to put things right! | Bryan |
| Growth and jobs should always have come first. Climate change is a fraud. | Nick |