New Zealanders have been well and truly duped by Labour over Three Waters.
From the outset, the primary objective has always been to deliver control of water to the Maori tribal elite. It is only through lies and manipulation, a compliant media, and an absolute majority in the House that Labour – or more accurately the Minister of Local Government Nanaia Mahuta – has been able to progress the reforms to where they are now.
Three key changes have been introduced to give control of water to iwi.
The first involved confiscating water assets from councils and centralising them into four mega Water Services Entities so ‘co-governance’ arrangements could be introduced.
‘Co-governance’ is a benign euphemism for ‘tribal rule’. It’s a clever description, because it ‘sounds’ equitable, even though it’s profoundly discriminatory since it gives tribal minorities veto rights over those representing the majority of New Zealanders.
With co-governed Regional Representative Groups giving the tribal elite ultimate control over Three Water Entities at a strategic level, a way had to be found to deliver local control to iwi.
That has been achieved through the Bill’s ‘Te Mana o te Wai Statements’ – which the Boards running the Water Entities must ‘give effect to.’ These statements can cover any aspect of water services: whether pipes, consents, levies – nothing is off the table.
In fact, when Newstalk ZB’s Heather du Plessis-Allan asked the Deputy Prime Minister Grant Robertson whether Te Mana o te Wai Statements could enable local Maori to “control what a farmer does with his or her pond on their private land?”, the Minister could not answer: “Ah, no, I wouldn’t think so … yeah, look obviously Heather I’d need to refer to the detail…”.
Just like their proposed overhaul of hate speech laws, which were eventually shelved, Labour’s Cabinet Ministers do not have a proper grasp of what they are about to inflict onto the country.
The only one who really understands the insidious detail is Nanaia Mahuta, and she’s pushing her own agenda.
To ensure tribal control over the new Water Services Regulator, the Minister established a powerful Maori Advisory Group with the authority to issue directives to the regulator’s Board.
So, with the plan for tribal control of water stitched up, the Minister set about manufacturing a crisis to justify to the public her confiscation of their water infrastructure and services.
A multi-million-dollar advertising campaign was launched to build public support for reform. By depicting sludge coming out of taps it aimed to discredit local councils.
The Minister also embarked on a disinformation crusade – exemplified in her second reading speech on the Bill: “We need to take this crisis seriously. We need to act with urgency. I do not use the word ‘crisis’ lightly, but when an estimated 34,000 New Zealanders get sick from drinking water each year, that is a crisis.”
The Minister’s on-going claim that a tsunami of 34,000 people get sick each and every year from drinking contaminated council water, is a complete and utter fabrication. It is not based on current health data but on an ESR report estimating the incidence of waterborne gastro-intestinal disease in New Zealand that was prepared for Helen Clark’s Labour Government in 2006!
The 34,000 figure was the upper band of a ‘guestimate’ based on UK statistics because the incidence of disease in New Zealand was insufficient for modelling purposes: “the size of most outbreaks is small, averaging nine cases per outbreak in 2000-2004, and is smaller than any other countries for which data are available.” The author even highlighted the unreliability of his estimates by noting in the report: “The reliability of this method is questioned by the author.”
Apart from one tragic accident in 2016, when farm runoff entered a town water supply during a storm, New Zealand’s freshwater quality has been amongst the highest in the world.
The fact that the Minister is using unreliable sixteen-year-old figures to push her crisis narrative, demonstrates only too clearly that she simply cannot be trusted.
Then there’s the litany of lies about the new system including the false claim that councils will still ‘own’ their confiscated assets even though they will have no control over them – and that water users will save money even though every independent analysis warns the figures do not stack up since the alleged “savings” are based on a huge escalation of debt that’s never repaid.
In effect, Three Waters is a Ponzi scheme based on interest rates of 3.5 percent, that maintains the illusion of a sustainable business for as long as the credit lines remain open. But with the new mega agencies reportedly spending money like water, and interest rates set to double, are Minister Mahuta’s glib assurances about the affordability of her scheme credible?
Or does she even care?
The problem for New Zealand – and for Jacinda Ardern – is that Nanaia Mahuta has turned Three Waters into a legacy project.
Through this legislation she aims to deliver tribal control of all New Zealand water – continuing the work of her parents Sir Robert and Lady Raiha Mahuta, who, with the assistance of her sister Tipa Mahuta and the former New Zealand First MP Tukoroirangi Morgan, successfully established ‘co-governance’ of the Waikato River.
With Tipa Mahuta appointed chair of the water regulator’s powerful Maori Advisory Board, and Tuku Morgan appointed chair of the northern Three Waters iwi body, both have key Three Waters roles to assist the Minister to deliver Maori supremacy over New Zealand water.
At a recent iwi leaders meeting, Tuku Morgan condemned an alternative Three Waters plan, which excluded co-governance, saying, “We will never be denied, we will never go silently in the night, our voice must be heard at the table and we must take our place, end of story.”
Those are not the words of someone committed to using their Three Waters co-governance role to serve the public good, but the arrogant and intimidatory demands of an elitist, who believes they have the ‘right to rule’.
And that is the ethic underpinning Three Waters. Any hope that water services under a tribal veto would serve anyone other than an iwi minority are naive and misguided. These tribal rulers will call the shots and they will be accountable to no-one. They will not be able to be challenged, nor sacked. They represent the totalitarian tribal rule objective of Nanaia Mahuta’s legacy project.
The extension of the Three Waters legislation from dealing only with freshwater, stormwater and wastewater to include coastal water and geothermal water was buried in Parliament’s Finance and Expenditure Select Committee’s 200-page report on the Bill.
It simply said, “In the bill as introduced, Te Mana o te Wai and Te Mana o te Wai statements would only apply to freshwater bodies. However, water services also discharge into coastal water, and may affect geothermal water. We believe it would be appropriate to expand the bill’s application of Te Mana o te Wai to these other water bodies.”
Without any public consultation at all, the Bill has been expanded so all water in New Zealand will be controlled by iwi.
What a legacy Minister Mahuta has created!
How long will it be before iwi introduce a levy on freshwater – so they can receive a royalty in perpetuity every time a Kiwi tap is turned on?
How long it will be before geothermal power generators are pressured for a slice of the action?
And, how will tribal control of coastal water out to the 12 nautical mile edge of the Territorial Sea affect the 600 overlapping claims lodged under the Marine and Coastal Area Act?
The inclusion of coastal and geothermal water in the Three Waters Bill appeared to have surprised the Prime Minister and key members of her executive.
The Minister of Energy and Resources Megan Woods confirmed as much during a radio interview with Newstalk ZB’s Mike Hosking: “The select committee report was the first time I’ve ever heard of the thought of including any more waters into the Three Waters bucket. So this hasn’t even been talked about by Cabinet… As the Minister of Energy and Resources, I’d probably have some views on geothermal! It’s not something we’ve even considered.”
And at Monday’s post-Cabinet press conference, when questioned about the inclusion of coastal and geothermal water in the Three Waters legislation, the PM still seemed confused: “My issue is that I’m struggling to quite understand the question that you’re putting to me…”
It turns out that while the Ministerial Working Group on Three Waters had suggested including coastal water in the Bill as one of their 47 recommendations, back in April Minister Mahuta had advised Cabinet that such a change would not be introduced until the second Three Waters Bill, since it would require a substantial work programme to ensure alignment with the new resource management legislation, new water regulations, and climate change planning.
Although geothermal water was not mentioned by either the Working Group or the Minister in her Cabinet paper, it has now been included in the Bill, alongside coastal water – even though the Minister’s substantial work programme has not been carried out.
Is rushing these into law now, instead of waiting for the next bill, a sign that panic is setting in?
Has Minister Mahuta suddenly realised that her Cabinet colleagues are unlikely to support the controversial expansion of iwi powers to cover all New Zealand water in an election-year bill?
Since coastal and geothermal water were not included in the Bill until after submissions had closed, members of the public have had no opportunity at all to have a say on this explosive issue.
The Prime Minister has now made the bizarre claim that including coastal and geothermal water does not alter the “scope” of the Bill – and she asked for it to be clarified.
Minister Mahuta obliged through Supplementary Order Paper 306. All references to “coastal” and “geothermal” water have now been removed from the Bill and replaced with the term ‘water’ – “as defined in the Resource Management Act” – where it states “water includes fresh water, coastal water, and geothermal water”!
So, while coastal and geothermal water are still part of the Bill, the Government’s subterfuge makes it harder to ‘see’ that three waters has now become five.
This week’s NZCPR Guest Commentator financial analyst and former local body councillor Frank Newman describes the toll on New Zealand democracy from the lies and manipulation associated with Three Waters:
“Unfortunately, the consequences of Three Waters go beyond a debate about infrastructure. The lies, the gross dishonesty, and the consultation charade will inevitably damage the public’s confidence in Parliament and democracy itself.
“Who now could be bothered putting any effort into making a submission to Parliament when they not only know their opinion will be ignored, but realise they are being played and treated like a fool?
“And why would anyone have any respect for Parliament and politicians when politicians have destroyed any notion that we live in a representative democracy founded on the principles of ‘government of the people, by the people, for the people’.
“The truth is Labour does not believe in democracy – at least not the kind of democracy that the people want and not the kind of democracy that has empowered and liberated communities throughout history and created unprecedented prosperity.”
Many questions arise from this whole Three Waters debacle, including who is actually in charge?
It certainly appears that Nanaia Mahuta is bulldozing her legacy project – tribal control of all New Zealand water – onto the country, over-riding the Prime Minister and Cabinet, and treating the public like fools.
Filled with dangerous detail that will undermine New Zealanders’ rights to water and our democratic way of life, this Bill is a huge mistake.
Jacinda Ardern needs to rein in her errant Minister and scrap Three Waters while there is still time.
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THIS WEEK’S POLL ASKS:
*Do you believe the primary objective of the Three Waters law change is to deliver control of all New Zealand water to Maori?
*Poll comments are posted below.
*All NZCPR poll results can be seen in the Archive.
THIS WEEK’S POLL COMMENTS
| It was always about N.Muhuta’s extending her family’s influence – sounds very similar to Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe and will be just as disastrous for us in New Zealand if we follow this racial road. | Monica |
| The present Government are a bunch of incompetent clowns. | Mike |
| Another rip off by govt based on lies????? | Keith |
| ABSULUTELY! | Murray |
| No doubt whatever | Ruth |
| Yes and I shudder to think of the future ! But as I’ve said many times before, the world is led by liars, cheats and bastards. Every week New Zealand gets ever closer to political disaster, social chaos and civil war. The nation is in a woeful state ! | John |
| The most evil people – the elite who are bulldozing this stupidity through parliament. | Elizabeth |
| They want it all. Total control. It must be stopped. Tribalism is apartheid. | Laurine |
| This will deliver to the Iwi, an endless income for no added value, all at the cost of the public. The finances will be used to fight endless legal battles to further their gains. Meanwhile the plight of poor Maori will deteriorate. | Ian |
| yes,it is a cunning theft of infrastructure paid for by the hard work of ordinary NZ taxpayers,these people should be called the Maori Mafia not Maori elite | Bruce |
| I cannot understand what Labour expects to gain from this proposal. | Rob |
| Yes, but not all Maori – Tainui is behind this. Mahuta is Tainui and she is serving her king and the sovereign movement and not there to serve the taxpayers who pay her. | Pamela |
| Sleasy legislation | Michael |
| It is just so blatantly obvious in the arrogant way it is being pushed through at all cost | lone |
| Aim to destroy democracy in NZ | Bryan |
| Minister Mahuta has an agenda and so does Tuku Morgan (until now I had no idea they were related!! ) Now I understand! | Ngaire |
| Mahuta, while flashing her moko, expects every NZer to ignore her racist intent and pass ALL of NZ over to the racist elite. Wake up NZ | Bob |
| Three Waters is the most obscene power grab by Maori in New Zealand history. The deeply stupid people supposedly running (ruining) our Country continue their sycophantic pandering to their Maori caucus and Mahuta in particular.. Three Waters must be stopped. | Doug |
| bastards | Robin |
| democracy is being eroded by the present labour administration, and is a scary profile for us all. | bob |
| What a dreadful shame that NZ is going down this co-governance route. It’s undemocratic, divisive, inefficient and costly. | Josie |
| Jesus….this is now very very scary and very very real.Pissweak opposition,out of control Labour MPs with personal agendas and their leader to busy with the mirror to take any notice. | alan |
| Absolutely!! These tribal types are wanting all of the benefits of todays society without any contribution on their part. | Tony |
| It’s beyond belief that this is happening. A minority race ruling the majority is apartheid !! Not so long ago we protested as a nation against apartheid – now we are living it !! | Glen |
| Once this bill passes into Law, elite maori WILL OWN THE WATER & CONTROL the Water, not New Zealanders, part maori New Zealander’s, But an ethnic group. Maori will have absolute control of both water and the power to charge a fee. It must be stopped. | S |
| Of course it is. | Rosemary |
| 100% asset stealing to give to some tribes … Can’t believe this is happening in 2022 | Dave |
| no longer a genuine Labour Party. elitist party now. | Chris |
| it is so obvious!! | Robyn |
| It has been all along and until the government and its conies are sent back to the Marae and the universities | Ray |
| I have no doubts about this | Allan |
| obvious when you see the facts, but with the media effectively blackmailed into silence by Labours bribe, how will average Kiwi ever know. | kabe |
| Radical Maori are “OTHER NEW ZEALANDERS” that have used victim hood to gain advantage of political power not offered to ‘Other New Zealanders’ to corrupt our democracy for their own personal enrichment. they are so close to pulling off this coup, doubling down by this group could escalate to to civil unrest. Very concerning. Appeasement is not an option now or never, it needs to be shut down once and for all, our society is becoming more toxic and divided by the day. New Zealanders need stand up now or lose our country to apartheid. | Sam |
| it has become obvious now that the aim is Maori ownership and control ie. privatisation. Irony reigns large – the Sage SOP wants to ‘stop privatisation”. | richard |
| Only a blind person could not see that. The brown tide is ever-reaching… | Carl |
| stop | Wiremu |
| Yes I do think that is what the Government is doing, and it is wrong on so many levels. They don’t own the water and neither do we,, it is God given for ALL, regardless of race, ethnicity, colour,, rich or poor. And we, here in New Zealand, are so lucky to have so much available to us. What this Government is doing is abhorrent. They are a disgrace and so are Maori Elites who want this. | Heather |
| Mahuta has used subterfuge and deceit to force her separatist agenda on we New Zealanders | Peter |
| It was never only about water, it was always about the journey towards co-governance. | David |
| Surely there must be some way of taking a legal case against this govt before the next election or will it take anti govt demonstrations to make the point. | Mick |
| This a grievous insult to local democracy and an obvious attempt to destroy the one person one vote process. This Govt shows itself devoid of honour and integrity. It must never be allowed to take power again. | Russ |
| More Maori grab | Neil |
| its an historic objective of Maori elite, and it won’t be the last claim on resources that no one group should own, they are universally owned and shared by all. | Ray |
| This LEGALISED GOVT, THEFT, by the Maori Elite, via Govt. mandate, will only STOP, when WE THE PEOPLE, UNITE AS ONE, SAYING… ENOUGH IS ENOUGH..!!! | David |
| Just one of A NUMBER OF EVIL AGENDAS’, used against people who value FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY, AND SLAVERY. Adern and her cronies in Govt. work for their Satanic Masters, WHO/UN/CFR/TC/ROCKERFELLERS. The Agenda will only end when KIWIS RISE UP AS ONE NATION !!! | David |
| Not just to Maori but to a specifically Tainui based controlling agency! | KM |
| I believe 3 waters will change our democratic right for every sector of nz’s population to be heard, it does not make sense in this day and age. Unfortunately I feel disenfranchised by the present government and have concerns about whether a national government will be strong enough to right the wrongs the present government have committed. | Sue |
| An outrageous proposal which should never go ahead a total mahuta scam | Sidwell |
| No, it’s main goal is to give more money to the rich pricks who are already in control. | james |
| If they succeed with their water plans what will be next ? All national parks? all government owned land? | G F |
| No one owns water. It is a gift from nature. Pure and outright greed from the Maori elite. | Wayne |
| You would be a fool not to think otherwise. | Michael |
| Driven by individuals set on stealing millions of dollars who care not what the cost to wider society (measured in *billions* of dollars, and tearing of the social fabric) may be. | Tony |
| I do believe that the ardern regime is being led by the nose by mahuta and co into a complete tribal coup where most ordinary people of this country will own nothing and be subjugated by the state to the service of our new socialist party. It appears that mahuta is actually the prime minister and the maori caucas are the govt. The rest are just window dressing making up the numbers. Most people in this country are sleepwalking into this new socialist country called aotearoa | Flip |
| I’ll go further. I firmly believe that the primary objective of this unmandated, unrepresentative rogue Ardern Labour/Maori/Green Cabinet is Maori Co-GOVERNMENT. | Phil |
| No doubt about it! | Janine |
| Totally !!!!!!!!!! The proposed legislation has little to do with water. It’s for Iwi control — people are now waking up to Jacinda and her agendas. We MUST turf this Labour lot out and also their Green friends. Check on their latest input into three waters and their disgusting input. | Alan |
| Most concerning | Bill |
| It seems tribal control is the only viable reason for it! | Peter |
| that’s obvious, | stan |
| That was the objective from day one and the Prime minister has no control on her Maori caucaus and one just wonders whether they have some hold over her. The three waters will fester and will not go away come election year and they Labour party will not be able to defend this disasterious policy. | ken |
| AND WE ABSOLUTELY LOATHE IT. CO GOVERNANCE IN ANY FORM FOR ANY PART OF NEW ZEALANDERS LIVES WAS NEVER EVER PART OF THE TREATY | Sheryl |
| Scrap this proposed legislation. I’m fed up with the pandering and divisive action splitting Iwi and Kiwi | Rose |
| Yes, Clear to see! Get rid of it! | Levonne |
| The Labour Party is so corrupt, doing all it can to do as much damage to the country before loosing next year Election. So that whoever wins has a very major problem in bringing country to it’s true Democratic standing. | Roy |
| This is not democracy, it is Tribal Domination ! | James |
| This needs to be stopped asap | Duncan |
| It will fail as the multiplicity of regulation will so damage productivity that everything will collapse So what are a families priorities Food energy health safety But govt taxes like water rates, insurance, council rates etc will not be paid as families will not have the ability to afford govt | Toy |
| Of course. It’s a cunning move to let the maoris charge everyone who uses water so that JA & her mates no longer have to support the maori.. | Maurice |
| Racist. Divisive. Destructive. | Ruth |
| We need an early election before she/they destroy NZ. | Carole |
| The entire set-up is not designed to deliver an agile three water system that can respond and improve three waters. It is clearly set-up to deliver control, worse the system has a number of road blocks that will bog the process down. | Andrew |
| it’s time for a ‘Whitlam”moment,time for Governor General to step in. | simon |
| It cant be anything else the way it is proposed | Colin |
| Quite clearly. They have tried to ram these laws through without any debate. | Mark |
| Without a doubt this Labour government together with its Maori planners is the greatest threat that I have encountered in my 82 years. Our TV news media especially, appear unwilling or unable to highlight the debacles that are escalating regularly in N.Z.. Are five million New Zealanders being lead on a long path to devastation that Russia, Zimbabwe, Uganda, Argentina, Iran, Nazi Germany, Haiti and Cuba have experienced? | Ralph |
| If water lands up in iwi hands can we recover damages from them for flood damages . This legislation is so bad | doug |
| No matter how much Mahuta attempts to conceal the real intent of her bill, it is abundantly clear that the main purpose is tribal control and more money for jam for Tainui … | John |
| Yes, it indeed looks that way. I would venture to suggest that there is a larger agenda at play, such as an asset grab for the globalist agenda. The globalists are desperately seeking to control Energy, Food and Water. This is just one more asset being stolen from right under our noses while we sit back and relax in our “she’ll be right mate” apathy. | BRYCE |
| THIS GOVERNMENT – LED BY NANAIA MAHUTA – IS GOING FROM STRENGTH TO STRENGTH OF LIES, DECEIT, THEFT, ATROCIOUS UNDEMOCRATIC BEHAVIOUR! | Sylvia |
| Maori have always wanted control of all waters in NZ. Mahuta is the evil person delivering it. I still believe main driver is Willie Jackson, hence his total quietness in recent times. | Peter |
| We need an entrenched law hat nobody owns the water- any kind of water. | Gay |
| Damn right. | Terence |
| This is an example of He Puapua in action | Peter |
| Theft | Peter |
| Absolutely there has never been any consideration of all Kiwi’s, just Maori | David |
| Always has been. | Muriel |
| YES!! This a disgrace. This is the most deceitful, lying, scheming government we have ever had. | John |
| Not only water. It is becoming more and more obvious that the intention of this labour cult is the whole country revert to tribal rule. A more repugnant government this country has never seen. All they are capable of is lies, treason and incompetence. They must go! | Terry M |
| You wouldn’t print what one feels about this lying deceitful racist Government!!!! | Ron |
| No doubt about it. | Murray |
| Very much So, Now they are trying to save it by making it compulsory to have 60% to recind it. This is not Demockerasy it is Dictatorship. | Richard |
| Without doubt | Sharen |
| Absolutely YES!!!! This is the whole purpose of the bill!!! | Monty |
| Why can’t we all be considered New Zealanders | William |
| There should be a vote of no confidence in the govt and they governor general should dissolve parliament. Labour clearly cannot be trusted in any way shape or form. | Rick |
| 17% of the country and watered down Maori wants to be in charge. I fill these petitions out but nothing changes. no wonder my family are leaving this country. | Marie |
| neosocialism at its best here n NZ Long live Luxon | Bryan |
| Always their intention | Andrew |
| Based on the evidence, the person leading this and that its really 5 Waters she wants, how could you come to any other conclusion. | John |
| Why are Maori considered to be different to Pacific Islanders? | Bryan |
| The PM has neglected her duty. Mahuta must be demoted to the back bench and the bill scrapped. Is that PM’s plan? | David |
| When are kiwis going to wake up and push back on this blatant attack on democracy in NZ. The only emergency in NZ at present is the Labour government and they need to be extinguished! | Chris |
| There is absolutely no other reason to align the regions along tribal boundaries. Indeed, any intelligent thinking would be to align the region with the existing regional councils. This government is nothing but a pack of racist liars – period. | Steve |
| When is this nonsense going to stop | Laurel |
| Yes – sticks out a mile, but only the Maori Elite will benefit from it as they have done countless times in the past. This needs to be nipped in the bud now, or the cartridge box may well replace the ballot box in the not too distant future! | Scott. |
| It must be stopped!!!!! | Maurice |
| Insidious, deceitful, arrogant, and profoundly antidemocratic. This law, if enacted, will become an international case study in what not to do. | Richard |
| This is only one of many strategies to wrestle total control of New Zealanders into tribal rule. | John |
| Of course, what else could it be! | Eric |
| I’m absolutely staggered that Labour would knowingly betray NZ by ramming this through | Wayne |
| The hard facts all point to a Maori iwi elite wanting to change NZ for the worse.. The Morihori were, by all accounts the first peoples on NZ | Stuart |
| Why not allow iwi to prove their ability by letting them deal with sewerage first? If they can successfully and economically deal with human waste then let them move on to freshwater!!! No sense in letting them spoil everything at once!!!! | Peter K |
| This will knock the progress that Maori have made back 50 years, because of a very greedy so called elite, who don’t represent the bulk of Maori. | Merryl |
| How has this been allowed to happen? | Peter |
| this is only one bill this labour govt is pushing thru unilaterally. democracy in nz has been ridden over roughshod by jacinda.. | craig |
| Not all Maori – nor all Maori tribes – just Nanaia Mahuta’s whanau and Maori elites. Ms Ardern will be tossed aside as soon as legislation is passed. | Cherie |
| Mahuta is becoming the Robert Mugabe or Jacob Zuma of the South Pacific and taking this country down the same road that Rhodesia and South Africa have gone. It is corruption, pure and simple. | Gavin |
| Water is essential for all of us, all cultures. | Margaret |
| Completely obvious to anyone with half a brain and not brain-washed by wokeness and Maori “spiritual” b.s. Read John Robinson’s books to realize just how serious is take over by the tribal elite. | Sandy |
| It has been years in coming but is in full speed ahead now. Have learned today that the legislation will be locked in so that no future changes will be possible. | Richard |
| Of course, this was their objective from the outset! Easy money to charge all users of “their” water. And what value could appointed Maori add to water supply and disposal? | Peter |
| Our Government is practicing Apartheid in front of the entire Country. Wake up NZ | Kalakanthi |
| Then they will plant more flax and cabbage trees along our water-ways. | John T |
| This is what it’s been all about from day one. But how to stop it is the question. Too few NEW ZEALANDERS have no knowledge let alone understanding of just what is at stake here thanks to the complicit media. The sooner we get rid of this Government the better. | Malc |
| This Govt. has to be denounced and ridiculed for their co-governance actions They are an embarassment to all level thinking New Zealanders!. Our Asian Community have more rights than 17% Maori can claim in this country. | Ian |
| Of course it is! | Alex |
| We need all NZ to get involved. It would appear only a small percentage of New Zealanders understand what is really going on here. Why is this not in Mainstream Media?? | Frank |
| Outright criminal robbery of the NZ public-surely there is some way this can be overruled? | john |
| Three Waters will be a huge financial disaster for New Zealand and cause serious racial hatred. | Ross |
| Chip chipping away. Wake up New Zealand. There’s a possibility we will be paying through our council rates to enter on to some of our beaches . Have a read of what National and Act have to say about The Three Waters Bill now before parliament. | Owen |
| How is it possible that the rest of the labor caucus let this happen? Are they not there to bring value to All New Zealanders? | Murray |
| However it is really delivering control to IWIs rather than Maori who are currently ratepayers as are everyone else. Even people paying rent in effect pay rates through their rent.. This is just a tribal power grab to gain control of all water. | John |
| If this happens,i’m off to Aussie. | Mark |
| Im part Maori but this is a slimball way of money for nothing for an elite few . We have a women in change of our country who is gutless and being walked all over. It getting to the stage where who need a job. The labour party will set us up, put us in Motels or besides people who never want or need this Winston Peters put this lot in charge and now we are all seeing how letting the fish and chip wrapper has destroyed our country. NO dual governence of any WATER SYSTEM | Alan |
| Definitely. | Heather |
| I am appalled at the way Nanaia Mahuta is rushing through HER Three Waters bill. Completely ignoring what the majority of the people of NZ want. Her legacy will be to ruin the country to give control of the waters to the Maori. A small percentage of NZ population. This Labour Govt. must go. They are taking democracy away from us. | Robina |
| There’s a Cabal running this Govt. | Neville |
| The fact that there was a large number of tax paying New Zealanders that took the time to consider the facts and then make a submission against three waters shows the level of concern we have as a country and even more so now that the conversation has moved to five waters. The people of this great country deserve a better Government than the deceptive and undemocratic one we have now. | Rob |
| German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer said all truth passes through three states, first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, third it is accepted as self-evident. Maori were not the first people to come to New Zealand. Many Maori will tell you that. That pride of place goes to Patupaiarehe, who arrived about the time of the birth of Jesus Christ. Second came the Waitaha people who arrived about 300 years later. However, authorities, including Government, will tell you that the Maori, who arrived in the “great fleet” about 1350 were the first to arrive here. One particular tribe of about 100 were picked up from Hao Atoll by the Spaniards and dropped off by the mouth of the Kaipara Harbour at a village named Aotea by the Waitaha people who lived there in peace. They did not integrate, but built canoes and moved down to Raglan and called their village Aotea. This is the tribe of Nanaia Mahuta. The name of that Spanish ship that brought the here was Tai Nui. | Kevan |
| It is not a matter of belief. It is absolutely fact. The co-governance word is just code for joint sovereignty over this Nation. It is not just water that’s involved but everything. All Government Departments, including Police and Courts. Language you see all literature in Government Departments. To pay for it there has to be a partnership. Enter the treaty. Now defined regularly in the Government bribed media. Which means 50-50 share of the tax take fort 15% of the population. Preposterous you say, well it is happening before out eyes. I have approached a number of Politicians, told them what I have learnt through my dealings with the head of the Maori sovereignty group. They all agree with what I told them, but will not come out and say it to the people of this country. The are fearful of being labelled racist and loosing votes. Excuse me and what Maori are doing in this country is not racist, everything they want is because they are maori. For goodness sake wake up all other Political parties and call it what it is. Apart from the greens they would be happy for Maori mythology and plants to run NZ. Race based politics!! This comment is from a mixed Maori pakeha family. | Dene |
| Certianly do, and it will be an absolute disaster to every one except Maori, what next the air we breathe, and that’s no joke | Brian |
| Not right, needs to go to public submission | Trev |
| of COURSE! | Gregor |
| there is no other logical explanation, Mahuta is evil personified. | gale |
| It is just the beginning. Maori elite want all of New Zealand. They are not stopping at 3 Waters- now 5 Waters and want a lot more !! | Rosie |
| You would have to be blind not the know what is going on with Cindy the Red licking the bottoms of the thieves to stay in power at any cost. She has NO loyalty to NZ and the tax payers who have paid for the water reticulation over a long period of time. It will not worry her as she will flee NZ to some cushy post in UN to strut around again looking like a peacock and stuffing some other country so she can be famous. This lot has to go NOW and take Mahuta with them to a very dark place. Why weight for next year when it will be TOO late. Wake up NZ yes it is still NZ and be counted. | Rod |
| It’s a way for the tribal elite to grab power while they have majority – this MUST be stopped. | Clive |
| All water including the 12 mile limit and the Waikato river must be made public property administered by the crown and only the crown. | Wayne |
| Mahutagabe and her tribal elite are slowly taking control of this country. The health system, the poly techs, and the water. It’s all part of their implementation of He Puapua. Democracy has failed this country. Arden is a disgrace | Rick |
| Of course it’s a planned scheme by Mahuta | Stephen |
| Most definately | Graham |
| It has always been YES. Seems like Mexico is looking more and more appealing! | Chris |
| This has clearly been their objective from the start. I said as much in a submission I wrote in opposition to this Bill, which I doubt the government has even read. | Ian |
| Of course it is and then everything else, they will not stop until they control everything. Does Labour care not a bit. | Fraser |
| The water belongs to all of us.Perhaps Pakeha should jump in quickly and claim the RAIN first now? | linda |
| Maori are natives that have not grown up or learnt how to adapt and live with others. Including their own mates. | RICHard |
| corruption pure and simply the fact that all submitters were refused to be recognised by the Labour government says it all | Allan |
| Have always thought so and the latest discovery of the legislation including geothermal and coastal waters is proof! | Rose |
| Yes. Absolutely no doubt about it. We can look forward to our water infrastructure being left to deteriorate into wreckage while the Maori Elite grab all the funding and then rate payers the biggest bill you’ve ever conceived to reconstruct it. That’s what they are doing with all co-governance arrangements so far. Parks, cut down the exotic trees and leave the place to fall in to wrack and ruin and burn down the huts in the Uraweras and wherever possible close down public facilities. Up north here, many walking tracks are now unusable because there are packs of feral dogs that will attack walkers. Access to beaches is being denied by thugs closing roads and public assets are being left to be overrun with kikuyu grass and go rotten. That’s what we can expect from “co-governance”. | Dianna |
| Science needs to come to the fore and corrupt politicians move out of the way | Alan |
| It is being done in an underhand way | Arthur |
| Absolutely no question. Thats been the plan from day one. | Mike |
| How do we stop this, I see now they have included a 60% requirement to overturn the bill. Unbelievable. | Gordon |
| What a charade the whole Three Waters bill appears to be. We all need to wake up to what is happening to the NZ we once knew! | Phil |
| YES YES YES | NEIL |
| This is a concerted move to reverse apartheid by Tainui | Ross |
| There is no doubt about this and if passed the backlash will be significant | Geoff |
| Without a doubt. Outrageous bill. | Max |
| Grand theft, corruption and racism. The best way to counter this BS is for everyone to join a 3 waters strike. No pays water bill until this crap is reversed and the perpetrators punished. | Richard |
| It’s a disgrace. | Jim |
| Totally agree with the comments made by Muriel Newman on the fraud that this government and in particular N Mahuta, are trying to perpetrate on the New Zealand public – it is an utter disgrace and an affront to our so-called democracy! | George |
| water is the most important resource on this planet. Its protection and use must not be up for grabs by self interest entities who are fully aware of its value. | Gary |
| I hate all of this Maori stuff, my Maori friends are growling about it all too as it doesn’t help any of us. Our country is being taken away from us. | Barbara |
| It has been obvious from day one that maori want full control of all water and must be STOPPED | LEO |
| Always has been from it’s conception | Bruce |
| It is a major rort. Mahuta cannot be trusted at all! | Frank |
| It goes further then that. This is a necessary step towards delivering Agenda 2030 for the globalists. | Pete |
| It has never been clearer that that is their main goal | Jim |
| Yes and to cap it all I read that they are in the process of putting a 65% clause for future governments to change the law. They call this democracy!!!!!! | tony |
| This government must be held to account for there mismanagement of the country | Anthony |
| We have no choice in this, how can this be allowed to happen. Government are a complete joke | John |
| It has been the ‘elite maori activists’ agenda since the 1950’s to achieve ‘maori sovereignty’ by 2040. Jacinda Adern, Nanaia Mahutu and Labours maori caucus are exponentially ahieving that outome and to hell with the other 80% of NZ citizens. | Maureen J |
| This is a blatant coup attempt to subvert democracy and give control to the tribal elite. It is based on lies (there has never been wholesale contamination of water in NZ as Mahuta claims), deceit, and brazen willingness to exert their will over the pope of NZ. They must be stopped before we lose more of our democratic rights | Kerry |
| Water comes from the sky. No one “owns” it. Water is for all to share, regardless of their ethnicity | Peter |
| We will end up like Zimbabwe next our property and farms will be taken by force | Brian |
| Disastrous for our country. we need a serious referendum on this issue. | Tom |
| One person maybe pushing but it takes all of them to make it happen and therefore the Government is responsible. | Iain |
| Another racist nail in NZ’s coffin | Ian |
| And I believe that Luxon has no other choice than to state the objective of his government will be the urgent repeal of all legislation passed in the name of 3 waters or co-governance. | Dave |
| Blame Winston. He put them in power | Ian |
| Ok Wayne Brown. This is why I voted for you: Ready, set GO! | Matt |
| 100% | Michael |
| And now they are deceitfully tagging the Bill so that in future it will require a 60% vote in parliament to get rid of the Bill. Luxon is dreaming if he thinks he can remove it. Can you imagine the litigation and injunctions (part) Maori will through to prevent that happening. Paid for by taxpayers of course. What stupid, stupid people voted for this woman without doing any homework to see what her history and agenda was. | Creed |
| It is so bloody obvious despite what the Minister and her Maori caucus state over and over again. One has to wonder if the PM, who while out of the country appealing to the international media, is being totally undermined by the group she is forever bowing and scrapping to. | Barry |
| It is part of the Tribal elite Propaganda machine to Maorificate Maori life at the expense of freedom | David |
| And when it all fails it will be our fault for not giving them enough money. This whole Maori control thing has to stop now. | Frank |
| Always was the aim | geoff |
| This is a decisive step for New Zealand to abandon democracy | Gerhard |
| Any thinking member of the public, regardless of race in NZ, realises that this cunning plan to control water in any form, by a Maori minority. is an affront to our democracy! | Ian |
| I have written and complained and signed multiple petitions ..but we need action. | Jean |
| A very dangerous woman is Nanaia Mahuta. | Sue |
| No question. | Maddi |
| That view is reinforced by the split up on the basis of Tribal boundaries and more recently the feeble attempts to hide that they want the seawater for Maori too. | John |
| Would not happen in a civilised society. | John |
| if you couldn’t see this coming you must be blind good news eventually the greedy mawee will bugger it like every else they do | brian |
| The maoris should be reminded that they are a failed race, who were unable to hold on to ‘their’ land when challenged, and lost it to superior cultures. They have made no improvements to their own way of life, or understanding of the real world since then, and are unlikely to do so in the foreseeable future. It is not conceivable that they could operate all water systems, or indeed, any modern infrastructure, in an efficient and effective manner. In a similar vein, our prime minister should be reminded that in an earlier period of history, high treason of a scale she is engaged in, would be rewarded by the swift application of a heavy bladed instrument to a rather important part of the body. I do not advocate that in this day and age, but at the very least she should be removed from office and put on trial for treason. New Zealand citizens, be aware that your next general election vote may well be your last, unless you use it wisely. | TOBY |
| totally undemocratic poer grab by a minority | john |
| What else can you think when it is obvious that this dumb government are hell bent on giving in to the Maori elite. What are this maori elite, nothing but a bunch of money grabbers who should be charged with treason and jailed appropriately, along with our Prime Minister and a few other communists in this government | Tom |
| Its been obvious since 3 waters inception | Stanley |
| Along with creating racial division. There seems to be a dearth of recognition of European tech. Geothermal has been here before anyone but it only came to serve as it now does with European know how. | Darag |
| Get this government out and be quick they have wrecked New Zealand. | Daryl |
| We will become the Zimbabwe of the South Pacific & an Apartheid state run by Maori. White flight to Australia will explode. | Warren |
| This is becoming a debacle of the first order and it is necessary for all democratic New Zealanders to understand what is occurring by overt stealth. | Keith |
| Absolutely | DEREK |
| Socialisim at its best.Water belongs to all New Zealanders not just Maori Tribal elite will be the only ones to benefit at the expense of every on else. | David |
| that was the intention right from the beginning | Elaine |
| It has been a long held objective of kingitanga | Roger |
| There is no other credible reason for the over representation of iwi interests in the governance arrangements and iwis exclusive rights to issue te mana o te wai statements | Terry |
| Most certainly yes they are trying to take control of the govt and stupid Jacinda is letting them bulldoze it through, who wants to pay them a leyy every time you turn on the tap. This is not the NZ we grew up in where we were all one people, kick he mob out NOW | eric |
| It all started with the Helen Clark Government. Foreshore and Seabed legislation. | Denis |
| not only Water. The entire country. Here comes Maori control of everything for their benefit, not the citizens of NZ | stewart |
| We are allowing our children’s birthright to be stolen, their very existence to be threatened by control of our life sustaining water. They know the control they are trying to exert over us with water, life or death. | Alex |
| Of course it is | Iain |
| 100% and following this line will eventually give control of all “power” generation to maori iwi also. | Rita |
| Now I see Labour changing Law to make it 60% of members of govt to be able to change 3 waters once passed.. This is absolutely despicable. Absolute con job on all New Zealanders. Maori elite members of Labour must be removed along with the lying deceitful traitor red queen. | Kevin |
| Unbelievable – how have we come to this. I see there is now a new requirement being introduced for a 60 % vote being required to overturn this “law” assuming it gets passed – words fail me. | Roy |
| Ludicrous tribal scam from a Minority that are far from truly indigenous anyway, but behave like they are …NONSENSE, this charade must stop! | GeeBee |
| This is absolutely wrong in its intention and violates the spirit of democracy. It cannot be allowed. New Zealanders deserve better and demonstrates again why labour is unfit to govern. | Harvey |
| YES! I think as you say in your report that it’s time that the PM puts a stop to her minister and this whole three waters thing before it’s to late because if this goes ahead and becomes law GOD HELP US ALL. Mark my words there will be a civil unrest in this country like has never been seen before, and if that happens i would guarantee Labour would not return to govern for a very very long time because the real people of this country will not forget in a hurry, because what this government has inflicted on the people of this country in the last five years is the worst i have ever seen in my seventy years, the sooner they and their IWI tride (Maroi party) are gone the better off we will all be, come on National and Act speak up be louder and do something before it’s to late or you might be tared with the same brush for doing jack. | COLIN |
| To Iwi, more than to Maori | Tom |
| This is the most racist, divisive policy this country has ever seen. It needs to be repealed ASAP. | Andrew |
| Will anyone even listen to my voice this is now the pressing problem – there is no democratic path open we have been bulldozed into submission and we are letting it happen, more fool us, it was a great and prosperous equal society once – now a racist third world island the rest of the world sees as an absolute failure. | Jane |
| For me, the most important works in this article are “And does she even care?” Jacinda cares about Jacinda, she is a “World First” opportunist who seized on opportunities offered by her giving birth while in office to grab international headlines. Since then we have had “Headscarf moments”, giving a speech at Harvard, alarmist reaction to climate change, over the top gun control laws and now “World First” rolling back democracy and returning to tribal rule. Does she care about any of these or are they just part of her CV for a job at the UN? Who knows, one thing seems for sure, she sees anything that happens to NZ along her way as acceptable collateral damage. F.A.O.Mr.Tuku Morgan, yes sir we did hear you and that is why Wayne Brown is the new Auckland Major. | geoff |
| It wont be all maori running the ship Tainui will have their snouts in the trough | murray |
| Yes – But it is part of a broader initiative that Kiwis cannot quite comprehend because each event is taken in isolation. Consider, the following and what the final outcome would look like? 1) Only Jacinta and a handful of her government make statements around specific policies. They are the few in control and they have similar ideals and goals 2) Climate change policies are being introduced to court UN initiatives that are not relevant or progressive for New Zealand. 3) UN indigenisation program is being courted for the same reason – getting Jacinda into the top UN position. 4) Promoting lawlessness through inaction under the pretext of reducing jail numbers is a cover up for creating chaos that would justify extreme government-led intervention to ‘legally’ change the laws of the land for their own purpose. 5) Jacinta frequently evades questions that require a direct answer by alluding to the notion that it is the governments intent that is important, not the result. 6) Control of the media using taxpayer funding to control the narrative whether true or false. 7) Managed unemployment numbers that do not reveal the true number of dependents on government subsidies. 8) The creation of an elitist group that would ultimately become authoritarian leaders of our country. 8) The unprecedented printing of money, for non-COVID related initiatives, fuelling inflation and blaming global effects on our economy, and increasing local dependency on the taxpayer. All of the above, along with extreme ideals, speak loudly of an agenda to completely alter the lives and cultures of New Zealanders forever. This has already been achieved with the introduction of policies that have influenced the perspectives and activities of our more gullible groups and individuals. Her task completed, our PM would be well positioned to try and head the UN in an attempt at global influence. | Martin |
| Total control – NOT co-governance – is the, not too hidden, objective of the activists. | Jack |
| Im just astounded that there isn’t a robust, dependable system that has the authority to shutdown rogue governments. | Geoff |
| Given the “benefits” to ratepayers it was pretty obvious from the start. Our glorious leader is pandering to the maori party and the greens to ensure enthusiasm for a coalition after the next election, plus all the woke globalist idealogy | Mike |
| Of course it is, anyone who thinks otherwise is a stupid fool! | Robin |
| Water, like air, is, was and always will be part of the universe. Never to be “owned” by anyone or anything. | Jan |
| Mahuta and gang must be stopped immediately. | Peter |
| It is the most racial attempt to control New Zealand ultimately, if passed it will lead to a lot of disharmony and protest, this must be stopped | Peter |
| there is no doubt that the intention of 3 -5 waters is to give Maori control of all water. They tried to claim it through the Waitangi Tribunal & where told NO. the new additions to this bill will do away with the court cases on coastal claims as it will give IWI the control automatically. This bill must be scraped & Mahuta thrown out of parliament! If it is pushed through New Zealanders will be charged for the life giving force of fresh water & this summer we will be charged for going to our own beaches. Labour needs to be rolled out of parliament NOW | Nigel |
| I thank all those Dim witted fools who voted for this pack of thieving communists, and those who are to stupid to see what is directly in front of them | Hugh |
| Listen to the rantings of Turku Morgan. | Kevin |
| The most dangerous action this government has taken to date. | David |
| Control the water control the country. | eric |
| The whole 3 waters scheme is a scam ! | Mike |
| I am most offended by the underhand way in which it is being handled and the fact that many MPs have no concept of the enormity of the subterfuge that they are enabling. | Jenny |
| Yes it is all about empowering and enriching Mahuta’s elite Maori cabal. Now they are putting in a 60 per cent majority requirement to any future government trying to repeal it! Why are the mainstream media silent about this shameful power grab? It is a legacy for Mahuta all right: the most malignant politician in living memory. | Chris |
| And with maori control of everything else. Last pale skinned person leaving NZ please turn the lights off. | Richard |
| I do believe Infinite Waters is a heist by the Maori ‘elite’. And they’re getting away with it due to the duplicity of the Mainstream Misleadia who are failing in their duty to keep the public informed. For example, every person I ask has never heard of He Puapua. | Dave |
| We are all kiwis and should be treated as one people | Lynn |
| Shame on Labour | Doug |
| Tribal rule | Claire |
| It always has been from the outset, very obvious. | Stuart |
| Treasonous. This gulliblement must be ejected. | Kevin |
| Undoubtably | Alan |
| I really worry where NZ is heading | Paul |
| Theft by Stealth and cunning | Jackson |
| And NZ will naively allow it to happen until we wake up to find Tuku’s hand in our pocket. Even ordinary Maori will see no benefit. It is a Tainui takeover. | Gerry |
| Its totally racist, and i recall our PM telling NZ she would lead the most transparent Govt YEA RIGHT | Paul |
| The question should be rephrased ‘Do you believe the primary objective of the Three Waters law change is to deliver control of all New Zealand water to an unelected Maori elite?’ because non-Rangatira Maori will see no benefit from it and be stuck just like us. | Brenton |
| The subterfuge is so great and when you get “senior” ministers having very little idea about what is in the bill it is very obvious New Zealanders are being conned | Graeme |
| Goodbye democracy God help New Zealand | Astrid |
| Democracy has become a joke. A very bad joke. Please could we get some sense from our democratically elected political servants? | Norman |
| Are hydroelectric and. Geothermal hiding in this bill yet? | Kay |
| This country is rapidly going down the toilet – democracy flushed away by this awful bunch of racists | Patrick |
| What’s happening in NZ sickens me and makes me so angry that I will never live there again as od live the rest of my life being angry. If I was there I’d likely be in prison for activism. | Trevor |
| Theft, and undemocratic. Must be stopped | Roger |
| Control of all water is definitely one of the Maori’s objectives, but ownership of water is the ultimate goal. | John |
| NEW ZEALAND .. drowning in lies ! | John |
| And I believe the Treaty of Waitangi should be scrapped and leave it in the archive of history. | Jackie |
| I have ben reading the book The Musket Wars and I truly don’t believe Maori could run it. Tribalism does not work. | Jackie |
| Why can’t the media in this country alert the people as to what is going.I know it is because the PM has bought them off | Mary |
| the old adage give a person an inch and they will take a mile same applies to Maori Tribes | john |
| Evil Mahuta | Tane |
| Definitely especially after Tuku Morgan’s latest comment when meeting in Taupo with his colleagues | Carolyn |
| Outright dishonesty | John |
| Five waters and it will cost the general public every cent that Maoris can screw out of us | Andrew |
| Absolutely that has always been the case even without any amendments. This government and Nanaia Mahuta have been playing the voters of this country for a bunch of fools believing that their crafty cunning and devious manipulations of new parliamentary laws will not be noticed by the electorate. Sooner or later it was going to blow up in their faces. It was my view that the opposition parties were lying low and waiting until closer to the election before they unleashed their fury and embarked on a campaign to enlighten the electorate about the skullduggery of this Labour Party and the underhanded tactics of their Maori Caucus. About their intention to institute the UN Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous People and the preparation of He Puapua as the path to guide its implementation. It is unlikely that even 25% of this country are aware of or have read HePuaPua. In that event they are blind to the process and do not understand or interpret the intention of this Prime Minister to control the process and deliver this country over to Tribal Rule by 2040. The opposition parties need to make a concerted effort to educate the electorate about He Puapua and keep reinforcing the issue at every opportunity. Willie Jackson was smirking behind his hand when he said that “the people have nothing to fear from He Puapua, and that He Puapua was not the plan” New Zealand needs to be VERY AFRAID of the implementation of HePuapua and gird their loins for there will be fireworks ahead. The Maori have been led to believe that this PM is their Saviour and will lead them to the promise land by implementing HePuapua. Fireworks will certainly ensue if that doesn’t occur as they see the ground snatched beneath their feet. Either way there could be turmoil in this land and the administration need to prepare for it. | Terrence |
| What has happened to our country? Ww need to push back fast. Mahuta is dangerous!! …. and racist!! | Glenda |
| It is definitely not about improving water infrastructure now and into the future. | Gillian |
| If it were not, why is the Government so determined to keep that clause in the Bill | Tony |
| Outright theft on a large undemocratic scale – Most lying deceitful Govt and PM NZ has ever had | Tony |
| From its inception, the perceptive readers ALWAYS saw through the stealth of 3 Waters from Labour and Mahuta. And now to use a legal Act definition of ‘water’ to conceal the 5 Waters extension is further justification to remove these corrupt clowns at the next election. Unravelling their connivance might be difficult but Kiwis thrive on a challenge and hugely respect democratic rights. Banishing Labour for decades is the only way to stop this lunacy – by voting them out repeatedly. Ardern’s only legacy in history will be the disastrous non-achievements and racially divisive policies of her two terms, mostly in the second when there was no MMP coalition party resistance. | David |
| Of course it is. Mahuta sees this as way to make her family the wealthiest in NZ, because of clipping the ticket of public services salaries paid to her family members. Wow Tuku can get more ties | Anon |
| It is reprehensible that in a Democratic nation like New Zealand, a Government uses stealth and deceit to bypass the democracy that it promises its people. | Leslie |
| It was always about giving them control. Maoris might have a role but it’s not control. I’m getting sick and tired of everything having to be for the maoris. But not all maoris are in favour of whats going on. This will come back and bite them in the future. We need snap election asap. | Peter |
| reverse racism | Sam |
| It’s got so bad that commenting feels like a waste of emotion. Labour aren’t listening to any of us. My voice doesn’t count, but my vote will. Bring on the election. | Wendy |
| There is no doubt at all. What a sad state for such a beautiful country to be reduced to such a terrible state as this. | Carol |
| Scribble chin mahoota is a terriorist like the Pm. Both decietful and false. Be gone: corruption | mike |
| if this goes in to law everybody will face costs equal to another big MOTGAGE on their property- in effect every one but the Maori elites will become SLAVES | Les W |
| As far as dishonesty and deliberately deceiving the public Jacinda and Mabuta make Putin look like an amateur | Jim |
| Communism | Michael |
| A blind man can see that is the case. As for the PM’s utterances that they will be the single source of truth, and the most transparent g’ment ever. What a complete land utter lie, fabricated to make some sheeple trust them. | Jan |
| Why are the police not locking these criminals up,whats happened to our country,Traitors were once arrested and the key thrown away | Paul |
| We are talking “rule by 15% of population” | Geoffrey |
| Equal rights for everyone – no group gets special rights/powers. This is the first of many “confiscations” planned. | Greg |
| It appears that the prime minister’s name is Nanaia Mahuta. She has total control over this government. Who voted her in? This is not democracy. What happened to this translucent way of doing things | Dianne |
| Without a doubt. | Christine |
| And Adern is not only a power-drunk fanatic but a fool as well. | Mark |
| Water like oxygen can’t be owned or controlled. | Les |
| Clearly that has been their objective from day one! | Alan |
| It is a disgrace!! | Russell |
| Another nail in the coffin of democracy. Act’s message tells me that Labour and Greens re forcing through a Bill that would prevent a future government undoing these evil laws without a 60% Parliamentary agreement. Wake up people! | Pauline |
| I can see a revolt in the streets over this rubbish. The prime minister had better sort out this attempted coup or the people will be so infuriated that a war of sorts will be needed to resolve it. | Derek |
| Not one drip of good will come from this charade. | Alister |
| The PM does not have the intestinal fortitude to control her Minister. | Ian |
| It is quite obvious hat Nania Mahutu has even our communist dictator Prime Minister under her influence. | Andrew |
| ABSOLUTELY! Plain as the nose on your face | Peter |
| THE USIAL MAURI BULSHIT. WE ARE SUPPERIOR TO EVERYONE. THEY EVEN NEVER EVENTUATED IN THIS COUNTRY i COUNTRY. THEY ARE IMMIGRANTS LIKE ALL OF US. | jOHN |
| It is obvious what is going on by stealth, deceit and outright lies. | merv |
| My God . Is this for real . Underhanded,lying ,sefserving , maori barstards .I was thinking trey seemed over confident considering the falling support for Labour , i guessed there must be a back door option ,actually thought Grant Robertson was the back door specialist . I propose we all chip in and purchase a old Lada that Adern and fellow parasites visit Ukraine and drive around and tell them great communism is and Putin could surely not be as bad as Adern ??? I would happily pay for a bullseye to be painted on said Ladas roof . At least the bribed media would have to show that . | Ray |
| When will New Zealanders wake up and see what damage this government is doing? | Councillor Ray |
| They are under the thumb of iwi | Colin |
| This elitism by Maori should be seen as high treason by all other NZers. They wish to destroy our democracy. | Alan |
| What a disgrace. | William |
| More divisions in the country | Ann |
| This is legislated theft of the highest order from the vast majority of kiwis by an elite few. | Stuart |
| There is absolutely no doubt this is the case | David |
| A civil war is coming . I will take up.arms if this happens and the Maori elite will find there is nowhere to hide on these islands of NewZealand | Harvey |
| This is marksism once again | Tony |
| This has always been Nanaia Mahuta’s intention and she is simply fulfilling the wishes of her late father, Sir Robert Mahuta, who many years ago stated that who ever controls the water controls the country! The water is only the beginning – wake up NZ!! | Phil |
| Of course it is. They’ve been after it for decades! | Brenda |
| Absolutely and always has/ Must be stopped. This is a total abuse of power. | Martin |
| I always said after the last election – we will see what Nz would be like if run by Maori. What a shambles, by recentful, greedy, disrespectful people. THe treaty was about good faith bargaining – well at least we can chuck that out the door and eliminate any reference to the treaty other than the annuls of history | mike |
| Arseholes | Bill |
| It’s time all non maori KIWIS joined together to take back our country. Lets show we can be a happy,prosperous and successful multcultural DEMOCRACY. First step is to vote out the Labour Party en masse.Next, convict every single Labour party member of treason,strip them of their assets and throw them in jail for 10 years. I really am starting to get big time pissed off with this bunch of a/holes. I am a New Zealander and I was born and live in NEW ZEALAND | Brian |
| It always has been | Gail |
| Wake up NZ. | Aaron |
| Of course the plan is for Iwi control. Only a fool would have thought otherwise from the outset. We have a government of Gangsters. Along with the massive push for Maori to be Jabbed with this killer toxin, it seems the other plan is to make sure the “Bro’s” are killed and maimed as soon as possible. Watch this rubble doco to have it laid before what the plan is for the whole world, that includes you and me. They are no more than animals. 2021 Safe and Effective 2022 Died Suddenly https://rumble.com/v1wac7i-world-premier-died-suddenly.html | Neil |
| Sneaky | Trevor |
| Get these clowns out next year. | Eric |
| It now appears that Ardern has lost control of her government. This is government by manipulation and misinformation. We are not fools and must not let the government treat us as such. | Paloma |
| It is becoming an obvious charade. Must be stopped immediately. | William |
| This is an absolute abuse of power and manipulation of an opportunity for i appropriate gain by a small percentage of the population | Sharon |
| Totally. I can’t see why the Governor General cannot be called upon to dissolve parliament and force a general election. Many countries there would be coup and they would be thrown out. | Graeme |
| Please Mr Luxton We need more information going to the public. They need plenty. | Alan |
| I am not in support of the present 3 waters but judge you have not made a conclusive for this extreme conclusion. Incompetence by ministers, public service and consultants may also be the explanation. | STEPHEN |
| Nothing more than a disgraceful con. | Logan |
| yes can smell a partmaori rat or 3in this fiasco,all water on the planet belongs to all living creatures including part maori as of course a minor race. all should watch under the carpet on youtube. | james |
| Iwi elites have crossed the Rubicon but face no sanctions for their lies, deceit and attempt to steal public assets for their own purposes. | John |
| Yes, but not all Maori, just the elite. Tainui in particular. Mahuta (Tainui) is not in parliament to represent the people of NZ; she is there to further the Tainui King plans for sovereign control. Once tribal control of water is in place, all other tribes will be fighting Tainui for their share of the pie. Goodbye democracy. | Pam |
| I’ve thought this from when it was first mooted. | Patricia |
| it should never happen, let us stop this nonsense | gerard |
| Ownership is the real goal, not control. | Murray |
| Lies and skulduggery again | Thomas |
| I object most strongly about this objective. | pamela |
| This underhanded sneaky objective by the maori caucus typifies what a sly race they have proved to be. | Darryl |
| More and more people are making derogatory remarks about Labour, Jacinda, Nania and maori. The Labour Party are to be congratulated if distrust and dissention is what they set out to achieve. | Peter |
| Should be burnt. As Mahutu and co will be come election. | Ron |
| Minority control over majority, approaching Apartheid. What happened to one New Zealand for all people. | Peter |
| and all of New Zealand | Anon |
| Yes dishonest and frightening | Shirley |
| Honest, open and transparent government? Time they were sent packing! | Bruce |
| A step closer to misery, a step closer to apartheid, a step closer to a communist state. | Mike |
| It’s just so obvious what these scumbag traitors of New Zealand are laying the groundwork for. | Steve |
| All of our waters belong to ALL of our peoples | Colin |
| Yes of course it is – and the purpose apart from the power is to make money- clip the ticket with every litre we use. Maori will have their dream- sit back do nothing and collect the money rolling in. We must NOT allow it to happen. | Roger |
| Very little other reasons to do it. Ardern,Cabinet and Labour should be tried for treason | Bill |
| There should be prison sentences for politicians who lie to the People. | Paul |
| The water quality argument is just a smoke screen enabling a coup by iwi elite to control this country. Shame on the government traitors. | Willy |
| Disaster | Geoff |
| Another appalling decision by the worst government NZ has ever had | Adrle |
| It is a total disgrace the way this subject has been handled.!!! | Dyveke |
| Racist, purely racist. | David |
| On the balance of probabilties, YES | Geoffrey |
| No doubt, this is a disaster in the making if it is allowed to happen | Michael |
| DNA doesn’t lie, Maori are not the Tangata whenua of New Zealand, any more than the Indian, European or Chinese immigrants. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO THE WATER. | George |
| No one can own the water,no one can own the air!it all comes from above!! The only reason Maori want to own both is to benefit their hierarchy with payments they extort from New Zealanders,if Government allows this farce to continue we will end up being another Third world country. | Chri |
| How anyone can believe that they own the water is ridiculous. | Jacquetta |
| They should not be in government | John |
| It is a totally deceitful process to vest total control of water resources in the hands of a minority whose ethnicity in most cases has less Maori heritage than all other ethnicities which are so conveniently ignored because it is more advantageous to claim a tenuous thread than to stand equally with all other citizens of this country. It simply is the end of democracy and will lead to conflict driven by retribution. | Ian |
| As well as causing division between maori and European people. Communism is divide and conquer which jacinder is one good comrade | David |
| This government is the most corrupt and devious than any NZ government ever | Robert |
| Definitely Mahuta the Looter and her Iwi elite maori caucus is in total control of the gutless Labour Party. Surely this is evidence democracy is being replaced by tribal rule surely our sovereignty with England must be called upon to over rule the destruction of our democracy? | Brenda |
| THIS IS THE WEAPONIZATION OF WATER | George |
| So obvious to anyone who has followed the corrupt manoeuvres of this government | Stewart |
| Stop paying Property tax & Council rates. They will get the message then ! | Hazel |
| just shows who is calling the shots but still wouldn’t trust any labour poly as toothy cindy dosen’t give a dam about NEW ZEALAND or its people as all she wants is to make a name for herself and she’s certainly doing that by being the most hated pm this country has ever had by being in bed in more ways than that with the corrupt and devious chocolate mob run by mahuta and family, this country will be totally destroyed if luxton and ACT don’t can these ideas when they get back in charge and the sooner they do the better for all of us. | Richard |
| Brown anting at its worst. | Hugh |
| they have been given far to much now. | Alan |
| pure greed | stephanie |
| obviously | Gerhard |
| Disgraceful | David |
| even a low i q person could see that.This is racist control by stealth. Welcome to our labour led 3rd world country!! | norman |
| And ownership. | Charlotte |
| Lies, deceit, non mandated (like all labour/Maori party policy) and destruction of democracy. Note the recent policy for all councils to fluorinate water? Leaves one wondering if this is in prep for Maori control so they won’t have to fit the bill? | Gary |
| I have always thought so. The three waters proposal was a Trojan horse, at its heart was tribal control of New Zealand’s water. | Louise |
| total ‘racist and dishonest ‘theft and lies | hylton |
| Three waters is only the thin edge of the wedge for full control of New Zealand to Maori Elite. Stop the press it just aint going to happen. | Francis |
| It is all about the 25% Maori caucus gaining further control and income streams. It is simply democracy destroyed! | Colin |
| We can’t rely on any politician or any party to save us as they are all under the control of the Khazarian mafia tentacles. It is up to We the people to stop this. | neil |
| Divide, confuse, conquer and RULE. We are in the divide/confuse stage of Her WEF overlords plan. Quote ..”Patriotism is the mortal enemy of globalism”. AND.. Patriotism in NZ is floundering by the day. Go figure ! | Alan |
| Scariest law change yet! | Jan |
| Absolutely horrendous, deceitful, Absolutely sick of living in the divided tribal grievance of Maori, time to say no to this BS. WE ALL OWN WATER, WATER IS LIFE. Nanaia Mahuta has an agenda and it is for a select elite of the close knit so called Maori inner circle. | Colleen |
| This government s the most damaging government in multiple areas. I have even experienced | NEV |
| Dam (excuse the pun) disgrace. It’s disappointing that local councils don’t seem to care about Co-Governance and are only concerned about the ownership of assets. This Government is an ass! | John |
| with out doubt | warwick |
| always was and always will be. | richard |
| Make no mistake this is that very real beginning of Tribal Rule for all of New Zealand. I would say that the Tainui Tribal Elite are very favoured here. Check out the other part of Five Waters. Iwi to control the whole Coastline of N Z out to 20 kms and over the top of. Let’s see how much it costs to go to the Beach soon !! For those of you ,not awake yet, may God bless you and help you through this small Sample of Hell, coming soon. | Geoff |
| Water is just the start. There is an insidious coup happening under the apathetic noses of NZers. Sooner or later there will be a violent backlash. And sadly MOST Maori are not to blame. Government are to blame for this APARTHEID. | Geoffrey |
| That Mahuta woman is the most dangerous cabinet minister ever. Even Key and Finlayson were not that dangerous. | peter |
| Yes – and you are dreaming if you think that a future National led government has the guts to reverse this. | John |
| it always was. don’t think that country homes with tank water will be immune either. It has been stated by Maori that “all water belongs to Maori”. | mike |
| And we will be paying for ever. Another scam of the present government. | Florence |
| What Nanaia Mahuta is doing with this this water crap and “Te Mana o te Wai Statements” is like what Hitler did with the Jews. She’s just another Hitler and needs to be stopped. | reg |
| The worst proposed legislation I have ever seen in my lifetime (81 years). If this the new democracy I am off to Australia | Errol |
| Mahuta and her ilk want total control of everything. Look out Jacinda – you’ll be taken over next. | Sheila |
| There is no other reason | Barry |
| Very underhanded and very deceitful how it was implemented. This is only the start unfortunately. | Angela |
| This whole debacle has never been about water quality, it’s all about tribal control | Gavin |
| They couldn’t get the seabed and foreshore, so this is just another way to get it. No way. | David |
| Over my dead body!!! | Norm |
| We are all one people in New Zealand, according to the Treaty. | William |
| No doubt , the evidence speaks for itself ! | Pierre |
| 100% | Colin |
| It all began with Key & Finlayson. Now, with our Marxist majority government, elected by the people, because of their fear of the C.C.P Flu, the very cunning Maori caucus will have this theft of asset agenda, well entrenched before the next election which is at least twelve months away.. Once in place, if National replace this government, nothing will change, as National are also U.N puppets, who believe in the Great Reset. So sorry folks, democracy as we knew it is screwed. | A.G.R. |
| And it aways has been, but only for Mahuta, who wants to be the paramount chief of all New Zealand, definitely not even all Maori or even most Maori. | John |
| Yes, BUT it is also the model structure for tribal-elite Rule of New Zealand. Mahuta is the most dangerous player in Government. | Hugh |
| When I drilled down into the sections of the Bill to enhance my submission, the light dawned: IT’S ALL ABT TE MANA O TE WAI!!! Unfortunately, I didn’t but should’ve made this the singular point of my oral presentation. And only this! | Art |
| Corruption which will ruin New Zealand | Frank |
| No one asked for this | Lynne |
| No doubt that this the objective of the Maori Elite!! | Colin |
| Absolutely undemocratic. They are trying to trick us. We cannot allow this to happen | jean |
| Done by a minister with corruption allegations against her that have never been addressed. | Allan |
| Maori have been trying for years including a plane flying over Lake Toupo | Brian |
| A small percent of those with Maori ancestry are driving this. Reportedly the Prime Minister is terrified of this radical Maori element in government (both labour and Greens.) As such she is weak and pathetic, sacrificing NZ and the people in total to hold power when in fact she is a public servant. | Tony |
| This nonsense – the division of our country & its assets must cease. Water is for everyone. | Paula |
| Absolutely | Fred |
| Maoris want money for water!!!! End of story. | Derek |
| Tribal rule of New Zealand must not be allowed. Maoris want control of all New Zealand. Anyone who can’t grasp that fact is a naive fool. | fred |
| The voice of the people of NZ hasn’t been heard. We all should be able to vote on such a proposal before it is formally introduced. Did the Labour Govt have the mandate from the people of NZ to do such?? I don’t think so. So much for an “open transparent inclusive” but reckless Labour Govt | Brian |
| All done under one lie after another. We have never had such dishonesty in Government… | fay |
| Yes. Disgraceful. | Jane |
| Exactly in line with He Puapua | Darrel |
| NO one owns our water .Control must remain in ALL Nw Zealanders hands and administered fairly and not given to one group eg Maori | Barrry |
| This should never be allowed to be | Carl |
| Vote labour in for 1 more term is the best way we could mover forward because it will take 1 more term for Labour to be thrown out of NZ politics as the country will be in ruin by that point. National is not a great choice here either. I believe we need to somehow get back to a First past the post political system first, as this experiment is clearly not working for the Majority only the minority. | paul |
| Its always been about Maori control. | Gordon |
| Of course it is, and it is the only reason. It is a betrayal of Democracy. It has nothing to do with better outcomes. On the contrary – it will only get worse for 98% of the population – same as with the health reforms, the RMA and so the list goes on. | Scott |
| Time for real kiwis to stand up and be counted – enough is enough!! | Denise |
| There is NO evidence that it is in the best interests of the health of NZer’s. Falseness perpetuates deception and this is classic – Ony fix is change the Government. | Maurice |
| 3/5Waters is nothing more than a blatant rort orchestrated by Willie Jackson, Nanaia Mahuta and the (so called) Labour Maori Caucus. The consequences of this racial division are unthinkable. | pdm |
| The Government cannot or will not explain why Maori should be given control rights. | Eric |
| No one has done anything to disabuse us of that opinion, to the contrary. | Pieter |
| This is the end of the labour government as far as I am concerned. I will never trust them again. This is not democracy | Warren |
| It’s an obvious YES! The Labour party has lost control of governance of New Zealand. I suspect that this is due to bellicose bulling by the minor Maori Party and the Greens. Jacinda Ardern’s reputation is fast being diminished and tarnished by the nefarious behaviour and crude actions of the radical Maori Party who unabashedly are making a selfish grab for unitary power all due to their mistaken premise that they matter more so than any of the other races that makeup NZ’s total citizenship. I wonder if they realise that they will become nothing more than parasites much like the varroa mite is to our hard-working bees. Jacinda needs to put an immediate stop to all the recent and forthcoming legislation based upon such unpalpable racial nonsense. It already is beyond being plausible. if her Ministers who are pushing all this disastrous nonsense refuses to backdown, then in order for Jacinda to protect the reputation of the Labour party and herself will need to dissolve the parliament ASAP and go for an early election. Jacinda needs to show that she is a quality human being able to display positive integrity and honesty in a dignified manner that will gain more respect for her personal self from her fellow citizens. We are in your hands Jacinda. Only you can make it happen in putting a stop to an oncoming national disaster. | Garry |
| Without doubt. Mahuta and Morgan have clearly put it up lights. It is racist intent and unforgivable. Simple power and greed and to hell with what is right and proper. | chris |
| A very divisive Govt. A pack of lairs, can’t wait to see them get slung out before they destroy NZ properly | Ian |
| This needs to be stopped somehow urgently. | Chris |
| It is all built around LIES and untruths. | Dick |
| Yes. With tribal control of all water. they could also dehydrate and poison us with fluoride as well. | Donald |
| There is no other reason to run this bill! | Peter |
| This has been the objective from the very beginning and must be stopped. | Steve |
| Very devious and cleverer than her cabinet buddies is our Nania This whole rort is a bloody disgrace as as for Tainui Tuku Will someone stuff those flash underpants in his uppity gob and shut him up! | Phil |
| No doubt | Clare |
| I have always thought so. | Graham |
| This is treason and it is being sanctioned by Ardern! | John |
| Totally Bro….. to the ELITE 1% – even our cuzzies will miss out. | Gill |
| Frightening where will it end | Richard |
| Yes and yes. | David |
| Theft of assets and tribal rule, that is what it is | Jan |
| Once again, its disgusting how Maori think any water, anywhere In New Zealand is meant for their sole ownership. They are not indigenous and need to be realistic about their position in a country shared very well for numerous years by many ethnicities, in most cases much more prolific than Maori. Stop embarrassing your selves and take your place beside all other ethnicities in New Zealand. | Sharron |
| Yet more bizzare behaviour by this lunatic, out of control Govt. | Bruza |
| O course it is, I never realized how devious the Maori ‘tribal elite’ really are | Terry |
| Sadly, this is as a result of John Key allowing Sir Pita Sharples going and falsely signing the UN Declaration of “Indigenous rights” when Maori are NOT indigenous! You don’t “arrive” at a place and be indigenous. Indigenous people have always been there! | Ted |
| From the outset, Three (five) Waters is the mechanism that Maori elite are using to control in every way the water that rains, sits, flows, drains and laps the land mass that is New Zealand and thereby to create an income in perpetuity for their Maoridom. | Brian |
| Without a doubt. | Fritz |
| It is the thin edge of the wedge | Bill |
| A racial group having control of the countries water is a no no and must not proceed.. In a way this proposal is saying that race based groups will be given special rights over a product (water in this case). This is totally wrong and if it proceeds will cause untold damage to the country and all residents. | Brian |
| This is not acceptable, must be stopped. | Clare |
| We NZers have got huge problems coming up , National party has got to stand up for the benefit of all NZ | graeme |
| This needs to be stopped in its entirety | robert |
| Daringly undemocratic | Raj |
| Hidden agenda with no public consultation is antidemocratic and being ramed through under urgency! Not good enough! | June |
| The bullshit they are offering is beyond belief.. and they think we can’t see this!!??? | Malcolm |
| No mention of who pays for flood water damages. | rod |
| Its just simply disgusting. | Mike |
| It is not even disguised. Just a blatant attack on democracy based on a clear racist attempt to introduce apartheid | Robbie |
| It’s a total scam and rip off being engineered to benefit the racial elite PART maori radicals in the present labour gov’t and their cronies.. It’s actually apartheid in disguise. | bruce |
| Mo doubt about that at all and in the process destroy any semblance of democracy in NZ | Carolyn |
| Absolutely!! Maori Elite want control of ALL NZ!! They want tribal rule by 2040 this is just the beginning! I can see our beautiful country in the grip of a civil war! | Gillian |
| That is most certainly there intention! | Ron |
| and I have submitted but was advised that as I am not Mana Whenua or have a direct interest in water (even thought I am a farmer) I could not speak to my submission | yeverley |
| Mahuta has made that crystal clear. What a devious and deceitful charade the whole stinking mess is. | russell |
| The takeover of the waters of NZ must never happen. | jill |
| This move by ‘our’ government is diabolical. Control of water by Maori is like putting a noose around the neck of all other New Zealanders! This government appears to autocratically impose (at the behest of various maori tribal elites) control of ALL water within and about New Zealand; to return this country to it’s tribal state of some 200 years ago. What a mess our country is in!!!!!!!!! Intentionally !!!!!!!!!!! Beware New Zealand! | Stuart |
| So many of us understand the hypocrisy but are frustrated that we seem to be continually fighting fires without enough ammunition. | joan |
| Irrefutable | Ian |
| It is diabolical, dictatorial and totally un-democratic – an underhanded bid by elite iwi to takeover New Zealand by stealth. There needs to be a nationwide declaration of “no-confidence in the Ardern government” – and the Governor General needs to dissolve Ardern’s Government and announce a new election immediately. | Suzanne |
| I cannot believe the litany of lies being foisted upon us ordinary decent New Zealanders. I even believe that most Maori would be shocked if they fully understood what was happening, as they stand to lose out just like to rest of us. | Matthew |
| It is blinding obvious | Maurice |
| The objective is to set Maori and Pakiha against each other, so we are distracted from the real issue, which is to drop our fair land into Communism. The New World Order, of which they are part, wants to control the whole world, and they want to eliminate 7/8ths of Earth’s population to ‘save it’. If we don’t wake up and fight back we are doomed. Virtually all the current parties are on-board with this program, only the newly created, fighting for freedom parties are truly for our Democracy. Global warming is false, the Covid pandemic is false, all the shortages are created by THEM. Do some research, people, speak out. | Joyce |
| always has been | Poul-Erik |
| Absolutely it is. | Jen |
| Subterfuge at the highest level. | Janet |
| thats obvious | david |
| This radical Maori agenda is just the tip of the iceberg.If the tribes gain control of NZ it will not be long until they resort to tribal war as they did in the past.It is in their DNA that no other tribe will be trusted.What they are trying to do is unconstitutional in any democratic country including New Zealand. They must be stopped now before people take action to defend their freedom. | Steve |
| Not just to Maori but the Tribal elite of the Maori nation. The run in the mill Maori will get nothing but the tribal elite will get richer. The Labour Party are a lying bunch of rouges. | Shaun |
| Biggest theft being conducted on New Zealand ratepayers in our history. Three Waters must be stopped before it is too late. | Chris |
| Clear that the Mahuta’s are in to win on this one. Tribal control equals apartheid. Jacindy is all in favour of that. Will look good for her in her new job at the UN. | John |
| Absolutely, and…by hook or by crook! | Valerie |
| The concept has been expressed by various tribalists for decades so where is the surprise when with true deviousness it’s to get ram raided under urgency thru Parliament now with the additional requirement apparently for a super majority to over turn it. Breathtaking! I we sit by and watch it take place. | Dick |
| If this bill is not stopped, civil war may well come in the future. This is apartheid. | Theo |
| The ongoing deceitful and duplicitous expansion of the Three Waters proposed legislation is deplorable and confirms that New Zealanders must be made aware of the urgent need to overturn / stop this undemocratic power grab by Maori elite. | Peter |
| Has the PM lost control as leader ?or is she just plain stupid, and cant see further than the end of her nose. | Mike |
| If this country is run by maoris, forget co governance bit, that’s just smoke screen NZ will be just like Zimbabwe. | Lesley |
| As with any proposed changes involving the Maori elite, it is not for the betterment of the people, it is for the betterment of their ability to control the people while at the same time lining their own pockets. We are slowly but surely being edged towards a Civil War. Maybe as a counteroffensive, we should start taking away some of the benefits maori have been given since the arrival of the european. They don’t want to share the beaches and water, maybe we should stop sharing our cars, welfare benefits, houses and clothes. | Urban |
| Anyone who doesn%u2019t realize what this deceitful Government is up to must be brain dead | Kevin |
| Ardern and Mahuta are on a path to destroy the astalility of the New Zealand people of all races. Mahuts wants to control of all New Zealand assects into the control of Maroi entlties. South Africs all over again. | Carl |
| Racism Personified | Greg |
| The only objective! | Lesley |
| I’m afraid so. | Rochelle |
| This is a socialist agenda put by eilist Maori To control water so they can us it to mah make money | Ian |
| Maori think they own the water | Lynn |
| Always has been | Craig |
| No question about it. Accretion by stealth, lies and purposely hidden agendas!! Yes, we are being taken as fools, including Ardern if she cannot understand a basic question posed to her. My guess is she knew, but as usual played dumb and deflected the question by the (hopeful) non-answer, appearing to be the fault of the interviewer. A very low trick and one which makes her a glaring Mahuta Puppet……. | Robyn |
| It is patently obvious that the ONLY aim of 3 waters is to give control to iwi and set the foundation for complete maori control. | Bruce |
| I do not think it is about water quality. I object to the handover and I am concerned about the excessive debt levels inherent in the proposal. It should be tossed out, including Taumata Arowai. | Peter |
| List MPs should never be in a position to bring in/promote a law change like this. The whole MMP system needs to be ditched, or altered so that only MPs actually voted in by an electorate can hold positions in cabinet. | Jane |
| It has always been a ruse to hand control of all water to the Maori. It is the worst piece of legislation I have ever heard and the country is being played for fools. | Jillian |
| Couldn’t be more obvious | Trevor |
| Yes definitely as soon as I saw how the proposed 3 Waters was to be managed.If this is not stopped it will lead to real trouble. Suggest we all don’t pay their bills as a way of protest! | Peter |
| How can we stop this before it is too late? If anyone is organising an uprising please count me in | Maxine |
| It’s now very obvious. | Ronmac |
| If they get it through in the next 3 weeks the will drown in it at the next election | Graham |
| Three Waters is nothing to do with water but everything to to do with perpetual income awarded to iwi elite. thank God the opposition have undertaken to repeal it. | David |
| This is a another Maori takeover bid about time this whole debacle of Maori cogovernance is thrown out forever | Gvprice |
| Unbelievable how these losers are trying their hardest to drive our country backwards at a time when we should all be pulling together as ONE PEOPLE to get us out of financial hardship. The Maori elite are just pigs gathering around our ever-diminishing public trough. | Dave |
| it’s racism in reverse, this is what Africa has now and is where we are heading | lyall |
| It’s all so disgraceful! Stop 5 waters ! | Nick |
| always has been | Robin |
| The Three Waters law change definitely gives control to a Maori elite group. Water cannot and should not be control or owned by any ethnic group based on race. Water is a free entity and a basic human right to have access too. | Jacqueline |
| It has never been about water quality, it has always been about control. | Alan |
| Yes, I believe so. Outrageous. | Jane |
| This is all propaganda peddled by water-melon environmentalists | Anthony |
| That has been obvious from the outset. No Labour politician has been able to explain why 15% of the population of New Zealand should have any control let alone 505 control over the water resources. | Tony |
| There is no more democracy in N>Z> Maori will take control under this evil Labour, Communist Government. | Georg |
| Yes, and everything else too! You “gotta” believe it. THIS COUNTRY IS STUFFED. Keep Luxon out from behind the counter at Mcdonalds … what a childish attempt at PR that was … and educate him on the facts of life under apartheid and on political campaigning. | Bruce |
| IWI I WANT IT.Charge with treason these MUGABE TRAITORS!They are the racists in this once wonderful country.Never known such arrogance & greed in 52 years. | chris |
| Liebour Party sanctioned Racism at its worst | Rob |
| dictatorship by Maori caucus pushing their agenda to take everything they can and more | Kenneth |
| Perhaps it is time to start referring to it as “The 5 Waters”. | JOHN |
| 100% I do. This lot have to be stopped before they destroy New Zealand as we know it. I really do fear for the future of our children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. It is up to us to prevent this takeover happening. | Kevin |
| Mahuta has no conscience, no respect for the New Zealand public and is an absolute disgrace as a minister of the crown, and should be removed from parliament. | Peter |
| This gov is all about division! It’s all part of the agenda to create division in population so they can call in the UN troops for total control. | Peter |
| That plan was publicly obvious years ago when they wanted the 12 mile limit fisheries area. In our house the comments were: they’ll want the water next. | Marie |
| Mahuta has hoodwinked her colleagues and introduced additional waters into the bill. If this is correct the bill must be scrapped as there is insufficient time to pass it through committee stages before the next election. | Dennis |
| This must be stopped | Valerie |
| Ultimately I believe privatisation may be the goal – at my most cynical I believe water was traded as part of the Pfizer Contract and this is a feeble attempt to put Maori as gatekeepers. Other countries put up military bases and ports so I don’t think this is too far fetched | Skarlett |
| If you are last to leave, please blow out the candle ! | Bryan |
| The labour government have not acted in the best interests of ALL kiwis , nothing new there , for it has been abundantly clear since Labour acquired office that their agenda would be implemented regardless of the peoples wishes . We see this same type of governance being enacted in all of the 5 eyes countries meaning that the new world order plan of masters unknown ruling NZ from the shadows has already begun…sadly ,the people will sleep right through it all again whilst more of their sovereignty is tossed in the bin progress for the elites. Stupidity is never compulsory , but it is alive and well in NZ. This current crime against the people of NZ is just the NWO’s next step in the demolition of sovereignty here in NZ as it will do nothing to improve the relationship between the people and is more likely lead to more animosity amongst them . Again we are seeing this same pattern being played out in all of the 5 eyes countries and with our current leader show more loyalty to several other countries OTHER than NZ , our future WILL be in the hands of others and not ours. God defend New Zealand , for our current government have clearly removed that remit from their anti-NZ agenda….Money has always had that type of power over those who only pretend to be Kiwi. | fred |
| It is flagrant racism | Bruce |
| It has always been the case. The concern for public health and welfare is just a smokescreen. | Sheryl |
| It’s a family and tribal push, not a ‘Maori’ one. Tainui and the Mahuta family see this as an ultimate, bloodless victory over issues dating back to the early 1800s. Those who identify as ‘Maori’, unless very close to the action will get zero benefit. In fact, those who are being discriminated against will in turn become discriminatory, and regrettably our race relations will most likely take a giant step backwards. | Ian |
| New Zealand is on a very dangerous path. Government has become a law unto itself and is behaving as a tyranny. Return the power to the people. | Diana |
| This bill must be stopped | John |
| The reason for this ridiculous proposal is obscure to me, but yes, that’s clearly the aim. | Sue |
| What has Ms. Mahuta got over the PM that gives her such power? Or is Jacinda happy with the all the lies and subterfuge of 3 Waters structure? | Glyn |
| While Jacinda is traveling the world for photo opportunities the maori ministers are stealing democracy from all New Zealanders | John |
| Its obvious | Rob |
| With the overwhelming belief that GLOBAL WARMING is causing floods to inland areas and erosion to our coast lines. Will the proposed Three Waters body not be responsible for the cleaning up and repairing of this damage??? | Rod |
| The sheeple are still asleep thanks to a corrupt media. If you think Luxon will repel the bill think again,I would be very surprised as National is nothing more than labour dressed in blue ever since that scum bag Key sent Pita Sharples on a midnight flight in stealth to sign the indigenous peoples act (false Maori are not indigenous) National have been pandering to Maori. Don’t forget it was Key that started the seabed & foreshore claims, even Helen Clarke send that would be totally undemocratic & she was a commie for God’s sake. | Allen |
| That’s always been the case, right from the start. Iwi want sovereign control over all of the assets they can grab – this is nothing more than state-sanctioned theft of private resources. When is New Zealand as a whole going to wake up to this? | Trevor |
| Has always been clear. | mary |
| cldnt be more obvious- sick of skin colour elitism in our once respected democracy | mark |
| Yes definitely | Graeme |
| I absolutely believe the primary objective of the so-called three waters scheme is designed solely to deliver control to the hands of chosen maori. | ROB |
| Has been obvious for some time. Labour must go!! | Jim |
| Stand up for what is right Kiwis! | Liz |
| Of course the aim is to control all water. This has been obvious for the last 5 years. The public will be paying Maoris every time we turn on a tap. All access to coastal waters, beaches and the likes of fishing and boating will involve an admission charge paid to Maoris. This has been obvious for years. My stated opinion years ago was that the Labour Government would bankrupt the country and that has become obvious with the overspending, unplanned, Government waste of taxpayer money which the Reserve Bank has now stepped into, is too late and with nearly everyone suffering the huge increases in interest rates, our taxation will be required to repay these huge loans. Government finance has now taken on a life of its own completely out of control with disaster looming. | CHRIS. |
| I am sure that is the objective. Part of Jacinda’s strategy of driving wedges and causing social disharmony throughout society. | Lee |
| It is a first stage of tribal control. Iwi will have water, coastline & geothermal control, as well as all hydroelectric. With sister Tipa and other cronies in controlling roles there is no comeback. As Mahuta is destroying Local Govt in her other role, it is not too far fetched to see how Iwi will control all food production and distribution as well as all NZ utilities under an ethno-state banner. Part of their plan to 2040 Sovereignty | Mark |
| This is not democracy. | Leigh |
| And we will all pay! | Matthew |
| And the parks etc etc | Mary |
| It is completely anti democratic | John |
| Mahuta and her ilk have always wanted control of our water get rid of her and her family otherwise we will be paying for our water even when we go to the toilet. Absolutely disgusting what she is sneakily doing to us Get rid of her and the tribal rule other wise we will all suffer for a few elite terrible to say the least | Barbara |
| New Zealand is facing a catastrophe with the tribal takeover of all aspects of our precious water. Get ready to pay to visit your local beach if iwi haven’t put a rahui on it that is! | Lynne |
| Definitely NOT!!! | Jim |
| This lying has to stop – Africa impeached one of their leader who was caught lying – why do we have such a high tolerance for it ????? | anna |
| This socialist and elitist autocratic government is another China, Russia or Iran. They just purport to be acting (literally) in everyone’s best interest. They all need to be removed from office by way of a snap election. | Murray |
| Most councils have 3 waters running efficiently. All the Maori elite want is a cut of the profits, erroneously believing it’s their traditional rite, with no regard for democratic principles. | Peter |
| It must NOT happen as mahuta is devious and a liar and cohort with Ardern. What the hell is the next corrupt activity will be announced | Sidwell |
| Totally obvious from the very start. I am saddened that many NEW ZEALANDERS don’t understand how much money it is going to cost every individual | Alan |
| Blatant grab of all water assets and obviously a transfer to IWI Totally undemocratic and unacceptable | Geoff |
| Ardern won’t reign in Mahuta or her Maori caucus will threaten a mass walk out and sink the Labour party. Jacinda knows this that’s why she is convenient with the truth. The floodgates have opened and it is possibly too late now to prevent this going through unopposed. | Lawrie |
| Absolutely – our government is corrupt | Simonne |
| Of course it does Time to get rid of the liars In power before its too late and NZ becomes a total Banana Republic at the bottom of the globe. | Lorraine |
| Must be stopped at any cost. | Keith |
| But it is only the beginning of a tsunami of such malfeasant policy. | Helen |
| I question at all | Richard |
| Just the elite iwi will benefit. | Glenwyn |
| Most definitely along with all the other insidious agendas the Maori activists are pushing. | Mary |
| Increasingly when I hear Ardern’s name being mentioned it is coupled with traitor. This government that operates under the Labour brand is not a Labour Government, The party has been hijacked and is run by hard line commies. it should be properly be renamed the progressive national socialist party.They are using the former Labour branding as a subterfuge, a chicanery. As the same with all commies you will find that the top brass never go short. I bet they have all raced to have their names put in top spots for the list seats. Kieran McAnulty working hard to keep the rest of you in line is he? Well it’s time the rest of you manned up and told Ardern and Red Rob that you’ll be voting with your electorates for any future bills being passed and not with Ardern’s a— lickers. I was presented this morning to the extraordinary article of David Parker revealing he came under strong pressure to ensureNZs new 0planning regime was governed 50:50 with Maoridom 2which he admits is undemocratic. In codemning Morrison, Albanese said ” the secrecy with which they had been surrounded was corrosive of trust in government.” He could have been equally talking about Ardern. | Terry |
| NZ is rapidly going down the toilet like Rhodesia(oops,sorry-Zimbabwe!) did some years back | Henry |
| There has been no discussion regarding how they intend to improve infrastructure and why did they need to take over current infrastructure. This is a blatant ownership grab which is going to disadvantage all kiwis except the Maori elite. What happened to democracy? | Fi |
| It is been obvious for a long time& is just the start | Lindsay |
| Along with Health, Education and local government. Looking at the numbers given the population of this country is now very mixed why such overwhelming representation is being granted to one only ethnic group how on earth is Labour reflecting the citizens they are meant to serve. B S in truckloads. | Christina |
| It’s apartheid Pure and simple | Alan |
| Not only 5 Waters but many other critical areas of governance captured by the same lethal intent of the Maori caucus. | Bruce |
| Keep up the good work – praying that common sense will reign eventually | Bruce |
| It is a Treaty Claim by stealth. | kevin |
| This should correctly be called treason and the organisers prosecuted, end of story! | Casey |
| Mahuta is a Labour Govt financed terriorist. Full stop. | mike |
| Tribalism. Just suppose that it the tribe waere white then the outrage would be of deafening mean. | Christopher |
| I’ve thought this all along.it puts our news media into an even worse light by not reporting the truth. | David |
| I’m ready now to get rid of this circus and I wait for the opposition to show their true colors. Opposed to any division of My Country | Ken |
| obviously every thing they do is racist | David |
| This is fraud by the Maori caucus and must be stopped | Margaret |
| Mahuta is not only corrupt, but also taking us down the same path that Magabe did in Zimbabwe | Jim |
| High handed daylight robbery | Keith |
| Absolutely. This has been obvious from the outset | Paul |
| Agree, this is the very visible hidden agenda | gavin |
| Yes — and nothing else. These gangsters will bleed the system dry until there is nothing left. The infrastructure will go down the gurgler ( literally ) because they will give a fiddler’s fart about maintaining the system needed to ensure safe water supplies to the general populace. That is dangerous stuff because in the end one can push people only that far without risking major upheaval and civil unrest. | Michael |
| Maori DO NOT own the Water and should never claim that they do. NO ONE OWNS THE WATER. | Graham |
| Labour and mahuta and co are just a pack of thIeving bastards. Must be removed from govt for treason. COME ON OPPOSITION DO SOMETHING. | Allan |
| They have misled the public by their campaign on dirty water coming out of the pipes in order to bring in Maori control and are now pushing the legislation through under urgency | Dorothy |
| And I am quite angry about it. And extremely concerned at the way this country is heading on a fast track downwards. In fact I am seriously considering now advising young people to up anchor and clear off out of the country because the future is looking grim. | James |
| Shameful proposition | Denis |
| Blatant anti-democracy at work with the active connivance of our pro-communist “Labour” government. | Edgar W. |
| They are already clipping the water ticket with hydro electric power companies and any company that discharges water. In other words , they are already stealing from the public. # waters will give them unfettered access to everyones money. | Mike |
| Democracy in this country is under threat as never before. Aside from the racial division inherent in Three Waters, water is a key strategic resource which must be in safe and democratic ownership. Global warming and the likelihood of competition for potable water makes this even more important. | Paul |
| Appalling! The Right to Speak has been completely ignored by the PM. The people have definitely tried reverse this decision. Very sad times for New Zealand. | Anne |
| This has been evident since day one of three waters and their deceitful little minds will be strongly focused on total tribal rule,this is what I call the waikaremoana effect. Total destruction of OUR country NZ | Warren |
| It has been all along. Surely what they are doing is illegal. They will now try to tie it up so tight that national will be unable to undo it. | diana |
| And if that happens you watch how many people leave the country for ever we are fast becoming a 3rd world country because of the apathy of the NZ voters | Peter |
| Minister Jackson has openly said so | Mo |
| It was obvious from the outset but what influence will this poll have? | Laurie |
| Blatantly Obvious! | Roseanne |
| Keep up the good work | Robyn |
| No doubt. | Dave |
| This is outrageous! The hypocrisy, the lies and deception are breathtaking. This is but another example of Maori cunningly taking more control. Ardern and her party are now in a death spiral. | Rob |
| A decade ago Maori predicted that in ten years they would own the water. Thanks to Ardern, their prediction has come true. | Jenny |
| Yes, and it scares the hell out of me | Kerin |
| Asset grab for the tribal elite through the fraudulent interpretation of the TOW | Peter |
| Absolutely and it’s totally shocking. What dreadful racists we have running our country at present. I just hope National grow a spine and vow to repeal everything to do with race. It is imperative we are all treated the same. | Helen |
| they still not evolved beyond thier violent savagery | donald |
| It’s quite obvious now, despite the spin and fog overlay. | Barry |
| Absolutely. We need a “Groundswell” type response. This is WAR!!! | Jim |
| The coup is almost complete.Shame on all those who voted for this disgusting undemocratic government.Wake up! Speak up and demand this be stopped right now! | Gail |
| Wake up Kiwis!! | Donald |
| What you say is quite correct but unfortunately the public at large are not getting on to the government about it. | John |
| This is a disaster on so many levels. | Trevor |
| Most definitely | Bernadette |
| Glad I no longer live in the apartheid Marxist gulag that NZ has become. | Elliot |
| No doubt about it. | Dianne |
| It is to transfer the ownership of our communal resources to private ownership. It is theft. | Charles |
| Absolutely, this needs to stop right now. This is a blight on our country and decent New Zealanders. Shame on Maura. | Ann |
| With the privileged Mahuta in charge it was always about tribal control. She is a serious danger to our democracy- but of course the elite iwi don’t believe in democracy. She is out of control and must be fired. | Laura |
| Hang them all. | Evans |
| Clearly the underhand inclusion of coastal and geothermal waters confirms this position. | Ray |
| Three Waters must be stopped. I will never vote for Labour if they somehow get this through, against the wishes of the majority. | Kevin |
| Undoubtedly that’s the intention. And it must be forbidden. | Graham |
| It is time for the Governor General to step in and stop all this crap from happening | Ken |
| Their aim is total control of NZ . The quicker we get them out the better. | Mike |
| And when they control all water they have total control over us all! Their ultimate objective! | Michael |
| This should be seen as the single biggest scandal NZ has ever seen and is absolutely 100% unacceptable. | Alan |
| No doubt about it and congratulations and thanks to those who have unearthed these details | Bev |
| Absolutely shocking destruction of democracy by the labour radicals | Mike |
| There needs to be a proper revolution in the streets before it is too late. What Ardern and her Socialist sycophantic friends have done in 3 short years to NZ is disgusting and breathtaking. They must be taken down!!!!!!! | Tuhinga |
| GOD, our CREATOR ! did not give control of WATER, to a select, race, to claim all rights to water !! Water, was given to all races to SHARE.. WATER IS THE STAFF OF LIFE, FOR EVERYONE !!! | David |
| Undeniably. MAHUTU HAS MADE EVERY EFFORT TO CONCEAL THIS ATTEMPT BY HER & THE IWI ELITE TO GIVE ULTIMATE POWER TO MAORI. | Bob |
| It’s absolutely unbelievable that this is happening and being enabled by our government | Sally |
| Never! Since I come to realise that it is all about taking from us ratepayers and having control over NZ! | Ray |
| 17.3% of our people are Maori Around 15.2% Asian We need to be one country same rules for all. | Beryl |
| This outrageous attempt to confer advantage based on race must be avoided at all cost. Contunation down the current track will result in civil war. | Rod |
| YES, YES.. This govt is NOT a Labour led one. It has been hijacked by the Maori Caucus. It must go as it is definitely NOT a democratic party anymore. Goodbye and good riddance. | Graeme |
| Nanaia Mahuta: The most dangerous, ideology driven and self-centred woman in New Zealand bar none. | Colin |
| Nobody owns the water least maori! if they want it so bad, they should be paying out for flood damage and droughts, this govt will cede ownership of everything to these scavenging ratbags | Laurie |
| Definitely. That was really its only objective. It’s certainly not about fixing imaginary water problems….or making water services cheaper. Mahuta cares only for Maori, and really only for Tainui. She will ensure Tainui sit at the top of the tree. Ardern is a useful idiot who is now exposed simply as a feeble talking head who is being told what to do. | Derek |
| PM Jabinda Argern either too scared to stand up to them or agrees with what they are doing to please her WEF masters. | Ron |
| Absolutely no doubt whatsoever that this is the agenda. Worst so called government in this country’s short history. | Steve |
| No question. | Andrew |
| Absolutely disgraceful lies by this Govt. making out our water is contaminated and in need of Govt entities to clean it up and Ardern’s false claims that Rates will rise exponentially if Govt doesn’t do this! It’s all about co-governance, with a Maori veto over control of our water. | Mary |
| Disgusting racism | Don |
| Absolutely their goal from the beginning and the downfall of this Govt | Phil |
| Time to pick up your shovel and march! | chris |
| Yes – and giving control of water to Maori is despicable. The sooner an election is held and this present government defeated, the better. | Nigel |
| New Zealanders have been manipulated and lied to by Ardern and her cronies. You can’t believe anything they say. | Bruce |
| It is shocking that Nanaia Mahuta has been allowed to impose her Maori supremacy agenda onto the country in this way, and seize control of water. All water, for goodness sake. What on earth does Ardern think she’s doing?? | Julie |
| Welcome to George Orwell’s new world – NZ 2022! | Paul |
| The lies and deceit over Three Waters has been disgraceful. And now they want control over the sea and geothermal water. Their greed knows no bounds. At least National will repeal the law when they get in. | Danny |